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TomReilly
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PostPosted: 07:38 - 01 May 2014    Post subject: ZSX 125 Reply with quote

Went to my local lexmoto dealer the other day to try a few cheap bikes.

And found the ZSX.. I've never found a bike more suited to my height, both feet on the ground its just the first half of my feet, but the correct way, one foot I can get it down perfect, it sat nice between my legs and felt just right in weight.

Lovely dash with its LCD screen and rev meter, lots of shiney parts to add for extra cc Wink

Anyway I know some of you will be abusive towards me getting a Chinese bike, but I haven't found a single bad review, its apparently reviewed better than the CBF but I don't have the source link. The dealer seemed very keen on the quality of the bike also, but aren't they all?


Looking on getting a loan from my bank for £1625 to get the bike in full
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PostPosted: 07:41 - 01 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you not just save that money? £1500 isn't an awful lot. Reviews seem ok, but how long has the bike been out and how many winters have they tried surviving.

inb4 £1600 is big bike and test money Wink
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PostPosted: 08:50 - 01 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not that hard to find the reviews.

MCN review vs CBF.

MCN review.

Twistngo review. Concludes "for a basic commuting tool, save money and buy the Street".

If you're borrowing, do your sums.

A CBF125 can be had for £390 down + 36 x £66.05 for a total of £2767. The YBR comes in at £2.10 per month more for the same deposit.

You're paying more overall, but you get a 2 year warranty, and consider what the Lexmoto will be worth by the time you've paid it off.

Your call. I wouldn't pay that much for a Chinese branded commuter, and I certainly wouldn't borrow to do so.
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PostPosted: 08:57 - 01 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

10.5bhp?! And people moan that the YZF-R125 is slow.
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PostPosted: 09:42 - 01 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

18 litre tank? On a 4 stroke 125? Cripes thats gotta have some range Neutral
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PostPosted: 09:58 - 01 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

My mate picked up a gs125 for £250 and has been running it for a year now, will have his big bike tests in about 2/3 weeks. He has already been offered the price he paid for it so he's only lost the money to maintain it.

No way I would ever buy a brand new 125. My thundercat was £1000 with a load of bits such as a new scorpion exhaust system. Leaves money over to do big bike test too and probably a years insurance, if not then atleast a few months petrol.

Can't see any reason to get a new 125 then a used 600. The 600 if maintaned will certaintly out live the chink 125. And it will defiantly be quicker, more stable and safer.

Also another point is my dad was going for a 125 after passing his cbt but after seeing his riding I practically begged him to do his tests and get a bigger bike. He passed last week and has been riding his 750 everyday. His riding has improved so much since lessons, even though he's on a bigger bike I know for a fact if he stuck to the 125 he'd soon be seriously injured or worse.
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PostPosted: 10:08 - 01 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did basically what ^^ His mate did.. Bought a Gs125 for £350 and never had an issue with it except a blown fuse then did my bike test and then bought a Gsxr for not much more than what your paying for a Chinese 125 which will be worth £500 in 6 months.
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PostPosted: 10:09 - 01 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sable wrote:
18 litre tank? On a 4 stroke 125? Cripes thats gotta have some range Neutral


I've always been tempted to get a 125 and double the tank capacity... Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:10 - 01 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ideally - loan, I would avoid, especially at your age.

Then theres buying a brand new bike - personally I would avoid unless splashed with cash.

Then buying a brand new 125 [chinese at that] which whether reliable or not - will drop like a stone in value, especially compared to its japanese cousins owned over the same period.

Its upto you at the end of the day of course, but personally I would really steer clear of the whole idea. Believe you're relatively young but how far off are you from doing tests and so forth - is it not worth getting a cheap used hack for a short while and investing the money into lessons/tests/a decent used next bike you'll get some long term usage and life out of perhaps?
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PostPosted: 10:29 - 01 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Matt- wrote:
Then buying a brand new 125 [chinese at that] which whether reliable or not - will drop like a stone in value, especially compared to its japanese cousins owned over the same period.

Relatively, but not in absolute terms. I reckon a new ZSX should lose about as much as a new CBF or YBR over the first 2 years. A really budget Vixen or Street will lose less because they come in at just over £900 to start with, and any running T&T'd 125 is going to sell for about £500 minimum if you're not desperate to shift it.

If you're buying with cash then you've also got less to save up to begin with - it's not a completely crazy proposition. Borrowing to buy though... no thanks.

However, an equivalent £1600 (or £900) worth of used CBF or YBR should work out best of all, unless you buy a complete Victor Devine of a bike.
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 01 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get another grand and get this:

https://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/125cc/msx125/configure/
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PostPosted: 12:08 - 01 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

LCD/digital dash doesn't mean shit, bicycles have them! Unless it's a proper decent multifunction unit like on the KTM Dukes. Stuff like this and those hop-up parts are just 'makeup' used by Chinese manufacturers to pull the wool over your eyes.

Not a bike I'd get into debt for. Lots of good 2nd hand bikes out there, start practicing your bike appraisal skills now by getting out and checking them out!
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PostPosted: 12:18 - 01 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

deadwolf wrote:
LCD/digital dash doesn't mean shit, bicycles have them! Unless it's a proper decent multifunction unit like on the KTM Dukes. Stuff like this and those hop-up parts are just 'makeup' used by Chinese manufacturers to pull the wool over your eyes.
Another very good point.

Purchased one of these futuristic devices for my first [pedal] bike recently - for the massive sum of £3.99. Tells me the time, average speed, top speed, records mileage over multiple trips and resettable single trips. Its ever waterproof.

Doesn't excuse the fact its still a cheap chinese bit of crap though Shifty
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 01 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a cheap jap 125 for less, use until tests pass, sell for the same.
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 01 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

deadwolf wrote:
Unless it's a proper decent multifunction unit like on the KTM Dukes.

Oh no you didn't.

Flickering and misty.
Yehbut, it's the same on the 690.
Another faulty dash on the 125.
... and yet another.
Shut up you guys mine's just fin- oh, faulty dash.
OMG guys, you're not going to believe this, but....


deadwolf wrote:
Stuff like this and those hop-up parts are just 'makeup' used by Chinese manufacturers to pull the wool over your eyes.

Those devious, unscrupulous, devilish Chinese!
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PostPosted: 10:25 - 02 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought one of these a few weeks ago, have only done 110 miles on it so far but I love it.

Have got it on 2 year finance because I finance everything lol might not be the most financially sensible option but I've had a finance payment coming out for a vehicle prob since I was about 19 (30 now), its just another bill these days Smile

I figure if I can keep it serviced and looking good for 2 years I'll be able to get £900 - £1k for it, which will then act as the deposit for a big bike or cover a DAS course. I'm in no rush to go up to my full licence though, just enjoying being on 2 wheels Smile
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PostPosted: 11:36 - 07 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

orangepeeleo wrote:
I bought one of these a few weeks ago, have only done 110 miles on it so far but I love it.

Have got it on 2 year finance because I finance everything lol might not be the most financially sensible option but I've had a finance payment coming out for a vehicle prob since I was about 19 (30 now), its just another bill these days Smile

I figure if I can keep it serviced and looking good for 2 years I'll be able to get £900 - £1k for it, which will then act as the deposit for a big bike or cover a DAS course. I'm in no rush to go up to my full licence though, just enjoying being on 2 wheels Smile


I like this guy^
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PostPosted: 11:40 - 07 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
Can you not just save that money? £1500 isn't an awful lot. Reviews seem ok, but how long has the bike been out and how many winters have they tried surviving.

inb4 £1600 is big bike and test money Wink


I could, but I can't, I am the worst at saving. having a loan from my own bank should cover it and sensibly.
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PostPosted: 11:47 - 07 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

rhys1005 wrote:
My mate picked up a gs125 for £250 and has been running it for a year now, will have his big bike tests in about 2/3 weeks. He has already been offered the price he paid for it so he's only lost the money to maintain it.

No way I would ever buy a brand new 125. My thundercat was £1000 with a load of bits such as a new scorpion exhaust system. Leaves money over to do big bike test too and probably a years insurance, if not then atleast a few months petrol.

Can't see any reason to get a new 125 then a used 600. The 600 if maintaned will certaintly out live the chink 125. And it will defiantly be quicker, more stable and safer.

Also another point is my dad was going for a 125 after passing his cbt but after seeing his riding I practically begged him to do his tests and get a bigger bike. He passed last week and has been riding his 750 everyday. His riding has improved so much since lessons, even though he's on a bigger bike I know for a fact if he stuck to the 125 he'd soon be seriously injured or worse.


Fair play he sound slike a great smart fella, but I'm looking for something a little differen't, thats a bit out of my style (blame youth)
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PostPosted: 11:48 - 07 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Matt- wrote:
Ideally - loan, I would avoid, especially at your age.

Then theres buying a brand new bike - personally I would avoid unless splashed with cash.

Then buying a brand new 125 [chinese at that] which whether reliable or not - will drop like a stone in value, especially compared to its japanese cousins owned over the same period.

Its upto you at the end of the day of course, but personally I would really steer clear of the whole idea. Believe you're relatively young but how far off are you from doing tests and so forth - is it not worth getting a cheap used hack for a short while and investing the money into lessons/tests/a decent used next bike you'll get some long term usage and life out of perhaps?


I totally fully understand you, I just think that I can get the bike sooner if I borrow from my bank and can pay it over a 2 year period steadily and calmly, having the bike asap will be a huge deal to me as I need transport.. busses are getting aggravating and messing things up.
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PostPosted: 12:17 - 07 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

TomReilly wrote:


I like this guy^


That's because he's just said what you wanted everyone else to say.

Seriously, you've been making posts on here about getting a bike (most of the time on finance because of your inability to save money) for months now. In that time you could surely have saved up enough money to buy a used Jap bike outright. Public transport can't be bothering you that much or you would have saved your money for a bike rather than buying pointless crap *

* Apologies for being judegemental there but I deemed this to be the most likely cause of you having no money.
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PostPosted: 12:18 - 07 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want it, get it. It's a nice looking bike, and... some people... have made far worse choices. Whistle

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PostPosted: 07:21 - 08 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

monteme0 wrote:
TomReilly wrote:


I like this guy^


That's because he's just said what you wanted everyone else to say.

Seriously, you've been making posts on here about getting a bike (most of the time on finance because of your inability to save money) for months now. In that time you could surely have saved up enough money to buy a used Jap bike outright. Public transport can't be bothering you that much or you would have saved your money for a bike rather than buying pointless crap *

* Apologies for being judegemental there but I deemed this to be the most likely cause of you having no money.


You're probably right, but as long as I get a bike nobody should be arsed really and just see me as another motorcyclist
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PostPosted: 07:59 - 08 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

TomReilly wrote:


I could, but I can't, I am the worst at saving. having a loan from my own bank should cover it and sensibly.


open a new current account, setup a standing order to the new account and destroy the card to stop yourself spending from it, you'll soon save up
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PostPosted: 08:20 - 08 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you'd be on crack to get in that much debt for a Chinese 125...... and I actually like some Chinese bikes.

Want new get a Vixen or Arrow for near half the cost. Or apply some sense and go buy one second hand so some other fool takes the depreciation hit and you stay out of debt.

The 2 year warranty is worth bugger all too. Have you seen the service schedule you have to adhere too and pay for in order to keep it valid? The lexmoto place near me charges £70 for an interim and £100 for a major service. As they specify services at 300km (or 1 month), 1000km (or 3 month), 2000km (or 8 month), 4000km (or 16 month), 7000km (or 28 month), then every 4k km. That's KM not miles and swaps between intermediate and full so say you remain under the KM threshold and just go by the months you will spend another £340 to keep that warranty. If you exceed those stingy little mileages then you will be paying more. Miss one by a few KM?... no warranty, miss one by a few days?..... no warranty....
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