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BadDog
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PostPosted: 16:54 - 11 Jan 2005    Post subject: VFR400 gear problem Reply with quote

Hi

Got an NC30 recently and I love it, however the gearchanges haven't seemed as direct recently (In fact sometimes I can't change up and have to release the clutch and have another go), and in the last few days the gearbox has developed a slight rattle when I pull away in first.

About a month ago, I adjusted the clutch at the handlebar, but it's run out of travel so my question is:

Should I have a go at adjusting the clutch via the adjusters at the gearbox end (I'm a newbie, but I've got the Haynes manual), or is this nothing to do with the clutch and should I leave it to a professional (It's a mint example and I don't want to ruin it)????

Thanks for any advice.
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MarJay
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PostPosted: 17:10 - 11 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chain adjustment.

Check your chain adjustment. If it is too tight or too loose the gear changes will feel poor.

If it is too tight I recommend you loosen it ASAP because you can damage your gearbox output shaft.

It should move about 3- 3.5cm at the loosest point on the lower run of the chain. Also check for tight spots as some areas of the chain can become stiffer than others.

Failing that, have a go at adjusting the clutch again - although bear in mind that if it hasn't got any better from you doing that then you might be adjusting the wrong way, or in need of a new clutch.

(Don't worry, changing the clutch is relatively straightforward with a haynes manual, and new springs and plates should not cost too much.)

HTH Smile
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G
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 11 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the NC30 you need to make sure that both halves of the inner basket match up when you put it back in (this makes sense when you do it.)

Make sure that's the case and it's easy.
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EuropeanNC30R...
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PostPosted: 17:32 - 11 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's run out of slack at the lever you'll be needing to adjust it at the gearbox end otherwise the clutch will be starting to slip constantly, which won't do it any good. Adjusting is not hard to do, and you'll know when you've adjusted it right.
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BadDog
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PostPosted: 17:48 - 11 Jan 2005    Post subject: Thanks guys... Reply with quote

... I'm going to have a go at adjusting the clutch tomorrow... will let you know how it goes... Confused
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kasandrich
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 11 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
Chain adjustment.

Check your chain adjustment. If it is too tight or too loose the gear changes will feel poor.

HTH Smile


Excellent tip Marjay Thumbs Up

I had never thought of that, being relatively inexperienced with bikes, and of course I lube and adjust my chain regularly, so I've never really got into the badly out of adjustment situation.

But it stands to reason, the changes would feel very clonky etc. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:52 - 12 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

My NC seems to rattle when I pull off sometimes. The chain is always at the right tension (I check it regularly) and its usually because the chain is a little dry. Check the chain adjustment and lube the chain and it should go away Smile
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PostPosted: 14:42 - 12 Jan 2005    Post subject: Thanks everyone Reply with quote

Right.

I had tightened the chain tension about a month ago because there seemed to be a bit of chain slack before the power was delivered in first gear.

According to my local bike shop (which I've just taken it down to) it's too tight at the moment - probably because I adjusted it to the correct tension without me sitting on it. They reckoned the original power delay problem was down to squared-off worn-out rubbers in the rear wheel and reckon it should cost about £80 to sort out.

I'm going to slacken the chain off a bit and see what happens. Thanks for all the help.
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PostPosted: 14:58 - 12 Jan 2005    Post subject: Re: Thanks everyone Reply with quote

BadDog wrote:
They reckoned the original power delay problem was down to squared-off worn-out rubbers in the rear wheel and reckon it should cost about £80 to sort out.


Funny thing that... theres no cush drive (rubbers in the rear wheel) on the NC30... And they want to charge you £80 to change it? Confused
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PostPosted: 15:35 - 12 Jan 2005    Post subject: Yeah... Reply with quote

...that's why I posted it - to check just how true it is. Just checked my Haynes manual and you're right. Wasn't planning on taking it back there until I found out what everyone else thought. Do you have any idea what the problem might be?
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PostPosted: 16:52 - 12 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I and others have said above, try checking the adjustment and then try lubing the chain. I've found the chain to be pretty sensitive to lubing and the noise chain when pulling away goes away after a good lubing Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:05 - 12 Jan 2005    Post subject: That's done the trick Reply with quote

Wicked. I've got my bike back. Adjusted the chain and it was still making a lot of chain noise. Seemed pretty well lubed, but gave it a load more and it's sweet now.

hawkeye - Don't you find the adjustment between the chain being tight and slack is really small? What's your end-can (or is it a whole system) and how is it? I've got the stock one on there now, but could do with something to improve the 1-8000 rev range (8-14500 is goooood...)

Ta again everyone.
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PostPosted: 15:58 - 16 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, the adjustment is a bit small, but thats due to the eccentric hub that adjusts the chain. You can also set the ride-height very slightly as well!!

My can is just an oval carbon fibre ART slip-on. Much better noise than a steel can (mate at uni has one on his NC). Below 8000, the NC will always be a bit weak. There are things you can do to the needles to tune out the midrange hole. Best to let a tuning shop take care of it Smile
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