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Thaleshwar
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 10 Jun 2014    Post subject: Lexmoto Street 125 starting problem Reply with quote

Hi,

I got my son Lexmoto street 125 to practise and build some miles to prepare for test (biggest mistake of my life), but apparently he had bad luck and had bad fall, well bike was repaired brought back on road but after some weeks when we tried to start it will not start we only get click noises from a relay located next to battery.
Battery and power are OK.

Kindly advice what could be the problem? is it relay, starter motor or any of the fuses? where is starter motor located is it openly viewed or accessible?

Will really appreciate experience suggestion and guidance.
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PostPosted: 11:34 - 10 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like the battery is not ok.... have you actually checked the voltage?
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PostPosted: 11:44 - 10 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If voltage is ok on battery, grab a big length of wire ( thick-ish stuff not speaker wire) and hold one end on battery + and touch the other end to starter motor + - if motor turns starter relay is buggered.
If motor doesn't turn, starter motor is probably buggered...
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 10 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Start with the simple stuff.
Check battery as said for voltage. Should be above 13.5v (yes I know it's a 12v system).
If you think dubious then you can try start from power pack or car battery. See if that works.

If battery low common fault I've found is regulator/rectifier (reg/rec).

If starts from power pack/car then does it also jump start (assuming carbs, put in 2nd gear, hold in clutch and push, then let out clutch to see if it catches).

If this is the case and if battery ok then check starter motor. Maybe just needs a clean up.

If bike been in accident then battery could have been damaged. These batteries are small and the cells are close together. So any drop or impact can damage them. They maybe still work but you might have lost one or more cells. So life expectancy somewhat reduced.

Not that this is relevant to the problem but IMO best investment you can make is an Accumate/Optimate charger (other makes available, avoid Oxford if you can, they don't last).
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PostPosted: 08:34 - 11 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

wr6133 wrote:
Sounds like the battery is not ok.... have you actually checked the voltage?


Thanks I have checked, battery is all fine.
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PostPosted: 08:38 - 11 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

gavcarter wrote:
If voltage is ok on battery, grab a big length of wire ( thick-ish stuff not speaker wire) and hold one end on battery + and touch the other end to starter motor + - if motor turns starter relay is buggered.
If motor doesn't turn, starter motor is probably buggered...


Hi, thats what I feel, but I am not able to figure out where the starter motor is located? except for external maintenece (brakes, lever etc..) I never had chance to go more closer..
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PostPosted: 08:41 - 11 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thaleshwar wrote:
wr6133 wrote:
Sounds like the battery is not ok.... have you actually checked the voltage?
Thanks I have checked, battery is all fine.

What's the voltage?
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PostPosted: 08:42 - 11 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

map wrote:
Start with the simple stuff.
Check battery as said for voltage. Should be above 13.5v (yes I know it's a 12v system).
If you think dubious then you can try start from power pack or car battery. See if that works.

If battery low common fault I've found is regulator/rectifier (reg/rec).

If starts from power pack/car then does it also jump start (assuming carbs, put in 2nd gear, hold in clutch and push, then let out clutch to see if it catches).

If this is the case and if battery ok then check starter motor. Maybe just needs a clean up.

If bike been in accident then battery could have been damaged. These batteries are small and the cells are close together. So any drop or impact can damage them. They maybe still work but you might have lost one or more cells. So life expectancy somewhat reduced.

Not that this is relevant to the problem but IMO best investment you can make is an Accumate/Optimate charger (other makes available, avoid Oxford if you can, they don't last).


Thanks for your reply, I have checked battery is all perfect, in fact bike just stopped working, my problem is I am not able to figure out where the starter motor is located? except for external maintenece (brakes, lever etc..) I never had chance to go more closer..
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PostPosted: 09:00 - 11 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Language go to pot this thread.

How did you check? What voltage are you seeing across the terminals? Keep the multimeter across the terminals and hit the starter button. What happens to the voltage?

The other things I'd check are the fuses, and the main earth connection to the frame / engine. Simple and methodical, there's not much to go wrong on these bikes.
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PostPosted: 09:15 - 11 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the voltage?[/quote]

Multimeter is showing 12.95V
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PostPosted: 09:20 - 11 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Language go to pot this thread.

How did you check? What voltage are you seeing across the terminals? Keep the multimeter across the terminals and hit the starter button. What happens to the voltage?

The other things I'd check are the fuses, and the main earth connection to the frame / engine. Simple and methodical, there's not much to go wrong on these bikes.


Hi, I tried jump start, I tried multimeter which is showing 12.95 and lights come on nice and bright.. when I press the starter button the relay (i guess its a relay) near / next to battery clicks everytime I press, so my 'feeling' its more to do with sarter relay or starter motor.. but I may be wrong.
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PostPosted: 11:04 - 11 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Guys,

So I had little light of hope; when I short circuit 2 contact points of the starting relay (as described by me 'relay', it could be anything), I hear the starting up sound, without even pressing the startup switch, so what does this mean, is the relay buggered? or the switch or still it could be something else?
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PostPosted: 11:30 - 11 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes starter relay or the cirkets that control it are dead

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PostPosted: 11:44 - 11 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

davebike wrote:
Yes starter relay or the cirkets that control it are dead

Dave


Thanks Dave, I have now already ordered the relay... hopefull it resolve..
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 11 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems to be a weak spot on Lexmoto Streets .I have replaced the starter relay twice now (Its the only thing to have failed though ) Symptons are flicking the starter switch quickly on and off will eventually get the relay to work .About £10 -15.FYI starter motor is the cylindrical item at front of engine. Cheers.John
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PostPosted: 11:23 - 12 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jgdin wrote:
Seems to be a weak spot on Lexmoto Streets .I have replaced the starter relay twice now (Its the only thing to have failed though ) Symptons are flicking the starter switch quickly on and off will eventually get the relay to work .About £10 -15.FYI starter motor is the cylindrical item at front of engine. Cheers.John


Hi John, Thanks for your response, I ordered one at £9.95, probably will receive today. I am sure as you own the same make and model you must be having first-hand experience.. I am attaching some images, they are 2 hose pipe one thin black one at the bottom of Carburettor and second thicker one at around the top of carburettor, however the other end of both are left loose and open ended, is this how it should be? I will appreciate if you will kindly see them in your bike and let me know how are they kept or connected..
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PostPosted: 20:28 - 12 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty sure the black one is carb drain .Will pop out to garage after Brazil match and look at other
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PostPosted: 21:53 - 12 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same setup as yours (Im of an age now where if its not broke dont fix it is the motto so had never looked before ).I can only assume (and some wise sage will put me right ) ,given the position of the clear tube that its some sort of overflow or additional air tube ?
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PostPosted: 15:26 - 13 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jgdin wrote:
Same setup as yours (Im of an age now where if its not broke dont fix it is the motto so had never looked before ).I can only assume (and some wise sage will put me right ) ,given the position of the clear tube that its some sort of overflow or additional air tube ?


Many thanks John, for taking trouble to check the bike late in night, I appreciate it. Hopefully I will try put back bike into working order soon. I too am strong believer of if not broken don’t fix it. My son (who is not young) had bad luck with bike and then what happened don’t know he would not even look at it, I tried a lot to drive him to put it right and get back on it but after 3 years I gave up, its done only 300 miles; I want to make it running, sale it, give the money into charity, and forget about it, but for it need bike in working order and I am trying that. I myself ride Suzuki SV650S.
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PostPosted: 17:34 - 13 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bought mine purely as a cost saving measure to get to work and back.Was spending £70 a fortnight in the car - £15 a month on the bike .10000 kms on clock now.Hope you get it running soon
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