Job Centre / JSA

[Doovy]

We just had an applicant for a digital marketing assistant role cancel on their interview for this week, as they have a job centre appointment they must go to instead

I mean.. really?

As I understand, they have to go to these appointments to show they are still job-hunting etc.. but to actually cancel an interview to go to an appointment where you must show you're going for interviews.. wtf?!

I have limited understanding of this as I've not been on JSA, but from what I've heard from my cousin and now this it sounds more hassle than it's worth.

What is their game? They cut you off if you don't turn up to an appointment because you're out there interviewing?
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[Doovy]

Oh the irony.


Well that sucks balls
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[hedgehugger]

Yes they 'sanction' your benefits. My son attended a job interview. Had his money sanctioned for not attending job centre at the same time.

Have no idea if there's an appeals process (son doesn't live with me, I found out about this months later).

[dydey90]

Sounds like every benefit control department. Remember the thing a few years ago where they 'assessed' everybody on disability? It had a bloke at work frothing at the mouth because he took his disabled wife to one such interview and got told she was certainly in a fit state to work.

Why? Because he went to the trouble of manhandling her wheelchair up the stairs to the reception, even though there was no ramp.
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[Ste]

Where do they refer to any benefits as a salary?

[gavcarter]

From what I got told when I was last unemployed it probably is making appearances round about now, starting with fresh sign-ons and those who have been on the dole for years.

I was told ( by a few different job centre staff ) that it will be coming along with the changes of universal credits.

Those on benefits cant claim x,y,z benefit anymore so will be awarded a universal credit instead which is just about to equal to x,y,z benefit and paid monthly.

It is apparently to lighten the "claim load" as you have to claim for everything separately eg, JSA, Housing benefit, Council tax benefit etc etc, it will all be rolled into one and called universal credits...

https://www.gov.uk/universal-credit/overview

Clicky above ^^

Now note the "Claimant Commitment"

https://www.gov.uk/universal-credit/claimant-commitment

I expect this is where they are to put any referrals to "a salary" or "contract"

Basically instead of helping people get a job, by creating jobs, or doing something constructive - they've tarred everyone with the "you have signed on so that means you don't WANT a job" so instead of helping were going to make it ridiculously hard to stay on benefits for any sort of period.

Which is good when you look at all the smackheads, wannabe's and lazy twats who claim it INSTEAD of looking for work, but not so great for the people who want a job but there area is still doing really crap in terms of economy and growth and there just is none....

and I BET once its all in and done the government BRAG like mad about reduced claims on the benefit system ( which as all the druggies and people who dont want to work slowly get every lifeline cut-off) that will result in (or at least i summise) a huge rise in homelessness and crime and general shitty state of the country

[MattHirst]

It doesn't surprise me that they cancelled their interview to attend a job centre appointment.

I phoned the morning of my signing on day to let them know i had an interview that clashed with my signing on, told me it was fine and could i attend the day after? Of course i did, taking with me evidence from the agency, the employer and providing all the contact details they could ask.

After all that i was still sanction for 13 weeks for failing to attend signing on, i appealed and was told i hadn't followed my job seekers direction, appealed again and told i had run out of NI credits. It seems the do what they want and make up a random excuse each time. I will no longer step foot in that place, i'd go without money if i had to.
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[covent.gardens]

The job center made me take a zero-hours contract, and wouldn't let me change my weekly JC appointments around this job. I had to turn down work just so I could attend the JC for an advisor to conclude at the end of a pointless 30-second meeting "I'm glad you've found some work and that it's going okay. See you next week!".

[Llama-Farmer]

If its something to do with the government, you can be sure its a fucked-up system.

The Job Centre is one of many examples.

I can think of many idiocy instances, one of my favourites being a fleet of 30 vehicles hired for 4 years at a cost of 110 times the purchase price, because they don't have the cash available to buy the vehicles outright. It cost them so much in 4 years to hire 30 vehicles that they could have bought over 3000 of them.



I do not know why they wouldn't let you change your appointment if you can demonstrate you have an interview, but they don't. Broken system is broken.
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Having been on and off the dole for a couple of years between landing my current role in the motor trade, which is a pretty damn good one, I could write a litany of stories about how incompetent and unhelpful the system is as a whole. Even the good advisors are hamstrung by stupid rules and the bad ones will just hand out sanctions like confetti. I lose count of the amount of pointless training courses I got sent on which actually interfered with my finding new work - I probably could have been back to full time well paid stuff sooner if I hadn't had to do any of that nonsense. Can't say I learnt much I didn't already know from them, except don't stay on the dole longer than you have to.

When I did get back to work, instead of paying my next few weeks housing and JSA they cut it right off on the day I started, when it had only just started again after a sanction given for not looking for work all of 2 days before doing a work trial that wasted my time and went nowhere because I didn't have enough proof apparently. This in spite of dozens of detailed sheets where I'd provided names, addresses etc of businesses I'd applied to work for. No trust. As a result I had to run up living expenses and train fares on credit cards, one of which I still haven't paid off four months later. All for the want of better support from the government. How is that helping? And mine isn't even the worst story I've read or heard first hand. Its fucking disgraceful.
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[Doovy]

Jesus wept, what a horror-show.

160 applicants, 7 shortlisted, 3 seen (today), 1 to be rescheduled (still; this Job Centre person) and 3 can't make it for interviews in person so will need to do it over the phone

I suppose myself being promoted means that this headache is my own fault
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