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Marmalade
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PostPosted: 22:54 - 22 Jun 2014    Post subject: Bike on a bike Reply with quote

Has anyone got or used a cycle carrier on a motorbike?

I have cause to need one and been looking around. You can buy them but for a one off, seems a bit pointless so I'm likely going to build my own if I can't obtain one from someone else.

This sort of thing i'm looking at.

https://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac17/Marmalade43/2x2-2_zpsf0851470.jpg
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PostPosted: 23:02 - 22 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't even seen one before and also think it's not legal in the EU. Thinking
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PostPosted: 23:09 - 22 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would it be illegal? After all it is just luggage.
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PostPosted: 23:16 - 22 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Elaborate wheelie bar?
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PostPosted: 23:22 - 22 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

That looks a bit precarious to me, and as such i wouldnt be in a hurry to do it. Would it not be possible/easier to get the motorcycle closer to your destination (if you have one) and just walk/bus/train/taxi the last bit?

If not, I think the frame on one side of the rear of the bike, and the wheels on the other would be an improvement
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Marmalade
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PostPosted: 23:28 - 22 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

1cyl wrote:
That looks a bit precarious to me, and as such i wouldnt be in a hurry to do it. Would it not be possible/easier to get the motorcycle closer to your destination (if you have one) and just walk the last bit?


It'll be safe, main plate bolted into where the top box/grab handle goes and a couple of ratchet straps to be sure.

The bike is the reason for the destination, bike on a motorcycle is the one option. It will be happening.

Legality is not a problem although I don't see it being illegal, it's just an odd shaped top box.
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PostPosted: 08:08 - 23 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:
I [...] also think it's not legal in the EU. Thinking

Let me just check the European Union Wide Road Traffic Act and it doesn't exist.

C&U applies, but I can't think of anything in the UK that would make it an offence. Maximum loaded length is 27.4 metres... Whistle

Although I'd make that pushbike more obvious because:

Marking of shorter projections

4. A projection to which this paragraph applies [between 1m and 3.05m] shall be rendered clearly visible to other persons using the road within a reasonable distance, in the case of a forward projection, from the front thereof or, in the case of a rearward projection, from the rear thereof and, in either case, from either side thereof.
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PostPosted: 09:12 - 23 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last time I rode to Germany there was a guy on the Eurotunnel crossing who had strapped his MTB to his bike with a load of straps and a rack/topbox. The frame was one side of the bike, with both wheels the other. This made it no wider than if he had panniers, with minimal rear projection. I don't recall if the pedals were off, but that wouldn't take long to do.
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PostPosted: 09:23 - 23 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cable ties.

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PostPosted: 09:27 - 23 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The simple task of typing "carrying bicycle on motorcycle" into Google shows many images for inspiration.

Even this example for a ST1100 that looks like a modified car rack to me...
https://fcdn.mtbr.com/attachments/car-biker/400870d1224214379-bike-bike-motorcycle-copy-pdr_0666.jpg

Plus YouTube has an example.

Then there's this guy who built a rack (on a V-Strom) with a few other links of it done before.

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PostPosted: 09:30 - 23 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If people can carry surfboards then I don't see why a bicycle would be any bother... as weasley mentioned, disassembling the bicycle could make it easier to pack and carry.
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PostPosted: 10:44 - 23 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

It needs to be inline.
I'l be doing about 350 miles with the rack on, probably 200 with the bike on, it needs to be inline for filtering and for the purposes of using a bike and not a van on the job.
Customer request.

It also needs to be able to be off my bike and rideable in the shortest time, putting front wheel in will be seconds, pedals won't take long but it's faffing with spanners.

I was thinking of putting a reflector on the back wheel with a bit of velcro to cover the overhang thing.
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PostPosted: 21:06 - 23 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marmalade wrote:


I was thinking of putting a reflector on the back wheel with a bit of velcro to cover the overhang thing.


Or a red flag/rag/light might also be satisfactory in the eyes of the Police Interceptors Police .
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PostPosted: 22:07 - 23 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

me and a mate once went bmx-ing, I had a DJ bike though. We both have Dakine thrasher bags.

https://www.sinshopthailand.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/thr1319.jpg

We stripped the bikes down, strapped the wheels to the rucksack with bungee straps, the main frame was connected to the skateboard holding straps, handlebars and pedals in the main compartment, along with the tools to reassemble when we got there. He was on a TZr50, I was on my Vara 125. It is possible, just some building needs doing at the other end. I think he even took his forks out, stored the bearings in a pot.



Sorry, didn't read the requirements until afterwards, my method will not be faffing free. You need to be able to build a bike, and have the correct tools with you too.
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PostPosted: 22:11 - 23 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure why you would need to carry a bicycle on a motorbike, I would simply take some spare wheels, one set with off road one set with on road! Job sorted!
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PostPosted: 22:13 - 23 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

gavbriggs wrote:
I'm not sure why you would need to carry a bicycle on a motorbike, I would simply take some spare wheels, one set with off road one set with on road! Job sorted!


Because the person paying wants a cycle on a motorbike.
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