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Squiffy_The_Wombat
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PostPosted: 11:21 - 23 Jun 2014    Post subject: Thinking of buying a Ducati 1000FF Reply with quote

Hey All,

A friend of mine is selling a minty Ducati 1000FF that's been standing for 5+ years. It's done less than 10k on the clocks but said that he thinks it might need a good service and possibly valves and belts checking.

A local Ducati dealership quoted £800-900 for a full service - does this seem about right? I've never had a Duke and know they can be expensive but this seems a bit silly...

Happy to do the work myself if it's not too involved but time is an issue for me.

Any other tips on what to look out for on these would be great, or any advice generally.

Thanks in advance guys Smile
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 23 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you mean a 1000SS? If so It's probably not worth all that much more than £900, however I'm told it's pretty easy to do Ducati belts yourself. There is an article in this months practical sportsbike explaining how to do it.

If I were you, I'd buy the thing and do the work yourself.
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PostPosted: 11:34 - 23 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Marjay,

Yes, lol I do mean SS! Thanks for the input, shall checkout the mag this afternoon, great shout Smile

When you say it's not worth more than £900....Do you think that's the sort of going rate for an 04 plate? Seems rather cheap to me when I've seen aging 600SS' go for £1400?

Thanks for your help dude Smile
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PostPosted: 11:36 - 23 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
Do you mean a 1000SS? If so It's probably not worth all that much more than £900.

Are you high? If you can find a decent 1000 you'll need £4000.
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PostPosted: 11:41 - 23 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carvel wrote:
MarJay wrote:
Do you mean a 1000SS? If so It's probably not worth all that much more than £900.

Are you high? If you can find a decent 1000 you'll need £4000.


I've seen them a bit cheaper than that...but yeah £900 sounds stupidly cheap.
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PostPosted: 12:05 - 23 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

any bike that's been standing for 5+ years isn't going to get £4000. My guess was it would be worth about £2k in which case you aren't going to want to spend half the value of the bike on a service!
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PostPosted: 13:03 - 23 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will defiantly need belts but there not that expensive
Also a battery fuel draining possible carbs cleaning or A flush with injector cleaner

Any bike that has stood fro years will need a good service and bits fixing

Ducati dealers charge like wounded Rhinos !!

Look for an Independent who will do Ducati but It still will not be cheap there rather time consuming !

If in or near South London this something I / we do

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PostPosted: 13:09 - 23 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

davebike wrote:
Will defiantly need belts but there not that expensive
Also a battery fuel draining possible carbs cleaning or A flush with injector cleaner

Any bike that has stood fro years will need a good service and bits fixing

Ducati dealers charge like wounded Rhinos !!

Look for an Independent who will do Ducati but It still will not be cheap there rather time consuming !

If in or near South London this something I / we do

Dave


Hey Dave,

Great info there, thanks very much! I am indeed close to South London (Canterbury) so might drop you a message if I end up buying it if thats alrighty?

Toby
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PostPosted: 13:28 - 23 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes fine

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PostPosted: 19:01 - 23 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bear in mind that Ducatis really dont like being stood for any length of time. If you can buy it cheap enough then fair enough, but it might end up costing you a fair bit to get it sorted - take it from someone who knows!
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 23 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I seriously wouldn't worry too much about the 5 year thing. Those Ducati engines are bullet proof in my experience.

I pretty much abused mine for 4 years and the bike was as reliable as anything else I've ever owned.

£800-900 for a service is a joke. You can buy belts, plugs, oil, and a fuel & oil filter for £150 give or take. Its a mornings work and 5 cups of tea to complete. I fully enjoyed it & I quite liked the sense of trepidation/relief when it fired up properly after a belt change.

There's plenty of tutorials/info on-line but if you need any more advice there's plenty people here that do it all the time.

I'd advise buying tippex to record the timing marks on the old belts against the new belts, that really saved a shed load of time. If you can run a 5mm allen key between belt and roller, I reckon you should be good to go....

The hardest job actually turned out to be replacing the fuel filter in the tank. What a complete b@stard that was...
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PostPosted: 22:13 - 23 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

As others have said, belts, oil and filter before anything else. Belts aren't hard and the Ducati forums (Ducati Up North has a lot of technical resourwill link you to some fairly cheap sources. The carbs are straightforward Mikuni CVs - easy enough to service.

Do check the connectors associated with the alternator and reg/rec for corrosion and cast an eye over any other electrical bits and pieces.

Service kits for Brembo calipers can be tricky to find but they're out there. Sources listed on UKMOC and other forums. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 23 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Islander wrote:
Service kits for Brembo calipers can be tricky to find but they're out there.

I've never owned a Ducati, but with the Aprilia RSVs they use Brembo calipers and Aprilia wouldn't let you buy seals - you had to buy the full calipers. Something to do with accident liability that Aprilia wouldn't sign, I think. KTM would though and you could get the Brembo seals from KTM dealers if you measured the size of them.
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PostPosted: 11:54 - 24 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarkJ wrote:
Islander wrote:
Service kits for Brembo calipers can be tricky to find but they're out there.

I've never owned a Ducati, but with the Aprilia RSVs they use Brembo calipers and Aprilia wouldn't let you buy seals - you had to buy the full calipers. Something to do with accident liability that Aprilia wouldn't sign, I think. KTM would though and you could get the Brembo seals from KTM dealers if you measured the size of them.


Most aprilia size seals are also readily available on eBay.
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PostPosted: 14:23 - 24 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarkJ wrote:

I've never owned a Ducati, but with the Aprilia RSVs they use Brembo calipers and Aprilia wouldn't let you buy seals - you had to buy the full calipers. Something to do with accident liability that Aprilia wouldn't sign, I think. KTM would though and you could get the Brembo seals from KTM dealers if you measured the size of them.


Yep. An American serviced his Brembo calipers with an official kit, had no skill or common sense, cocked it up, crashed and potatoed himself and sued Brembo for not providing a working brain with the service kit.

They are out there though. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:44 - 24 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had this with my KTM they wouldn't sell the rear calliper seals, had to by a whole new calliper apparently, told them to suck my plums and got it direct from brembo.
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PostPosted: 18:41 - 24 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

the belts are pretty easy to change,
belt covers off, (which is the hardest part of the job)
mark old belts for reference, loosen tensioners
remove belts,
mark new belts with marks transfered from old belt
line up new belts,
retension tensioners, and covers back on,
may be a 2 hour job if you havn't done it before,

oil change is a easy as any other bike
carbs pulled off and cleaned is also easy as pie, far easier than some 4 cylinder bikes

a greese here and there, valve adjustment is also pretty easy, but being a desmo motor, you have to do it twice per valve

all stuff you can do at home
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