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CometGeezer
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PostPosted: 12:58 - 13 Jan 2005    Post subject: Motorbike site - what do you want to see? Reply with quote

I'm going to be doing a motorbike site and wanted to ask bikers a few questions so I can provide stuff they actually want to see, read, etc and nothing that they don't want!

If I can get enough (proper) responses to my questions below I just might be able to create something bikers really like!

What would you like to see on a motorbike website?
What are you fed up of seeing on motorbike sites?
What are you most looking for on such a site?
What are the main things that annoy you about motorbike sites?
Anything else you'd like to mention?

(I realise the q's seem similar but i am hoping to get as many responses as possible!)

The idea of mine is to have motorbike reviews and videos/photos, plus help/awareness sections for newbies, and how to articles and much more..

It's quite a big project so i want to get it right from the start. I want to create a mega-site that bikers absolutely love, and go to for reviews and news etc. What's in it for me? Well, this time next year...... Smile

Serious answers only please!

Many Thanks,

Matt.
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mrchips
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 13 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naked women, free neckwarmers, money off vouchers, prize givaways and a review or two.
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TheShaggyDA
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 13 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like reading reviews from real people. I'm not a biking god, and neither are the majority of bikers out there.

I like reading hints and tips - maintenance, riding, touring etc.

I like seeing stats - would like to see a bike site contain something similar to https://www.carpages.co.uk/guide/

I'd like to see a section on customising and modding.

I'd like to see a section on bike law, that is kept up to date.

Racing bores me, but I'm probably in a minority there, so I suppose you should have a section on it. Hidden. Hard to get to. Passworded so I don't accidentally get into it. On a different site. Smile

If you are going to finance it by advertising, make them popups. I can block those.

If you are going to allow comments on reviews, I'd like to see them moderated. Let everyone have their opinion, but posts that go "OMFG dUdE yOu sUx0rZ!" should be removed and their authors plagued by explosive diarrhea whenever they hear the word "bike".


And good luck Smile
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PostPosted: 13:44 - 13 Jan 2005    Post subject: Re: Motorbike site - what do you want to see? Reply with quote

You will probably take this offensively, though it's not intended as such:

Plenty of people have tried the same thing, amny of which trying to advertise on here. Few have generated anything useful.

I would suggest that rather than asking people 'what do you want to see'; people are stupid: you look for a niche that isn't catered for and start from there.
Personal fame or respect is usually a bad reason to start a website and rarely leads to success
It's hard to make money from webcontent these days, so not really worth bothering unless you have an amazing idea.

Making an all encopassing site for anything is going to be difficult to achieve well.
Infact, the only such sites I can think of are places based on a comercial operation; like motorcycle news.
Visordown makes a go of it, but I think most people ignore that a read the forum.
We have tried to build up some kind of magazine on here in the past, but haven't had enough contributors to make it worth while.


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The idea of mine is to have motorbike reviews and videos/photos, plus help/awareness sections for newbies, and how to articles and much more..

For this you are basically doing what the big bike mags do. They have budgets and get stuff because they are already 'big'. You will need to find a lot of people to do a lot of work for you to keep this sort of thing running.
I would suggest something more along the lines of the UBG magazine would be more appropriate to start off with.
It is very hard to become a big player without money or time and lots of either.
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dodsi
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PostPosted: 14:05 - 13 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

What would you like to see on a motorbike website?

Motorbikes + semi naked girls

What are you fed up of seeing on motorbike sites?

Scooters

What are you most looking for on such a site?

Good information on bikes...stats etc

What are the main things that annoy you about motorbike sites?

Scooter features.

Anything else you'd like to mention?

Yeah, If we can put man on the moon, Why cant we put metal In the microwave?
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CometGeezer
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PostPosted: 14:45 - 13 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

wicked... i've got some great ideas to work with now. Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

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You will probably take this offensively, though it's not intended as such


no offence taken mate - i know what i'm doing (he says confidently!)

Cheers for the thoughtful replies and suggestions keep em coming!
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Gracie Jones
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PostPosted: 15:07 - 13 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geeza,

Perhaps avoid lots of new jap 4 reviews and as mentioned above, some more 'real life' stuff.

Whatever is there, paramount is that it is well written. If things are well written people will read. Sounds simple, but it is crucial.

Cheers,

Luke
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jamie192
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 13 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

What would you like to see on a motorbike website?
Good videos pictures, good reviews, sections for various types of bikes, including things for the people who like 50's there are some people out there. Good layout, and knowing the person writing about it has an interest in biking as well not just doing it for $$$$
And women, not fat! Hints, tips advice, opinions.

What are you fed up of seeing on motorbike sites?
the opposite to above^^^.

What are you most looking for on such a site?
Interest, a good set out site and good content

What are the main things that annoy you about motorbike sites?
The dicks who put stupid things in and some boring content.

Anything else you'd like to mention?
Good luck! And if ur going ot have adverts put popups, as a lot of people have pop up blockers so it wont cause them much of a problem.


Hope this helps! O and another thing when its made dont spam it all over here it annoys people.
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theftvictim
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PostPosted: 17:35 - 13 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

will the site be £free?
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Bendy
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 13 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Bikes' is a very big topic.

Personally, I have no interest in generic bike sites - I'll follow a link to a news story now and then, maybe have a poke round if I was thinking of buying a new one, but other than that I find reading about bikes to be quite dull really.

A site about a single model of bike, or for some niche interest within the overall biking thing, would be a better proposition IMO... something that hasn't been done before, or has but not very well.

If I were you, I'd focus on the newbie aspect and try and create a site that covers all the starting out stuff - that way you get to do your bike reviews, gear reviews and so on, but you've narrowed things down a fair bit, and you know what editorial tone to take. On this forum you have a good resource of newbie posts (too see what kind of thing people want to know) and also a steady flow of newbies who could be directed to your site for information. I haven't come across such a site (admittedly I haven't really looked) but I remember finding bits here and bits there that were terribly useful when I was starting out.

Good luck!

And for the record, I give the thumbs down to burds draped on bikes, tedious photos of 'users bikes' and half-assed articles.
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G
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PostPosted: 17:46 - 13 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

My point about the above Smile.
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Plenty of people have tried the same thing, many of which trying to advertise on here. Few have generated anything useful.



A lot of people ant to do such things. Most are convinced they will work and be the best ever Smile.
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Ste
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PostPosted: 17:56 - 13 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something along the lines of www.nsr125.com would be succesful. Thumbs Up
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CometGeezer
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 13 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes the site will be 100% grattos (bar the advertisers, lol)

i think the 'best' and most profitable avenue would be as Bendy suggests the newbie bikers/starting out niche, or at least a target market rather than the whole of the UK's bikers!

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A lot of people want to do such things. Most are convinced they will work and be the best ever Smile


yeah true,.. I don't know if mine will be the best ever, and i'm not going to know if it works until i've got it going, but better to have go for it and fail than not at all IMHO!

Sissy: Feel free to borrow or use any of the ideas here for yourself.
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GreyHam
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 13 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

as someone new to biking i find there are very few websites that really cater for a new biker
itd be nice to have a 'new bikers' section - a section about the learning process, CBT, DAS etc, and some reviews of popular scooters and 125s
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MarJay
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 13 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I would like to see a Bike related internet forum run by a chap whose name rhymes with 'Porn' and where people can post anything they want. Preferably self regulated by some sort of mystical energy system.

So then. I would call this forum BikeTalkForums and it would be run by a man called 'Dorn' and the regulator bot would be known as "The Regulator".

Thats what I want. Smile
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dodsi
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PostPosted: 22:29 - 13 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

You ask of too much marjay, far to much.

Something on those lines will never happen.
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Fire_Eyes
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PostPosted: 04:10 - 14 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, what I would like to see:

Reviews
Bike Specs ( I don't know how much does my 98 zzr400 weigh untill now)

A video gallery,pic gallery (not too much though but it'd b nice)
Some racing news
Some voting

I don't know maybe a few things to download (screen savers, wall papaers etc)

Good luck with your site, hope this helps.
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Ste
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PostPosted: 10:14 - 14 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

www.bikez.com has that all pretty well covered.
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kaillum
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PostPosted: 11:17 - 14 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
www.bikez.com has that all pretty well covered.


i've actually been working on a site similar for about 6 months, mainly building up the database of details, taken from independent reviews....

simply because I couldnt find anything about the specs on a CBR6 apart from Honda's marketing info...

do you know if the info on this site has been taken from the Manufactuers figures? of real life tests?

cheers
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PostPosted: 11:34 - 14 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

NO KARMA
I refuse to visit a site that has anything to do with karma!
(Apart from the lovely and fantastical Korndom of BCF Thumbs Up)
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 14 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you want to put 'everything' on there? You will need to quit your day job and work souley on your website!

Or, you could join up with me and add some dam useful sections?! It would save you having to pay for hosting fees every month! The site I created was for bikers who meet locally to me, Junction 27 of the M1 and at the MFN bike meet in Ilkeston. I just need to start advertising it really!

Take a look and see if you fancy it?! It could do with some more riding tips and advice and a section on stats or something, but I have not got all the time in the world, boo hoo! Sad

https://www.junction27.org.uk

PM/email me if your interested. I 'd also like to say Imake no money/profit from the site. So, I'm not screwing anyone here!
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CometGeezer
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PostPosted: 21:17 - 14 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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O and another thing when its made dont spam it all over here it annoys people.


I won't be "advertising" it on here! Smile but might like to get feedback from some members via PMs.

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So you want to put 'everything' on there? You will need to quit your day job and work souley on your website!


I'm not sure if it's going to be a site on 'everything' yet, definitely won't start out like that! .. i do this as a full-time thing. I just want to get it going then see what happens...
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