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| WD Forte |
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 Posted: 19:48 - 06 Jul 2014 Post subject: Oh shit, oh shit, oh shit !! |
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If you've had a license for years, check its expiry date
lest you lose it or get into deep shit
I had to dig out my driving license for ID purposes
when weighing in an old car battery at a metal recycling plant.
First time its seen daylight in a loooooong time
The woman at the counter told me it had expired nearly 3 years ago
Whaaat?
oh bollocks!
Never having had cause to dig it out, I never gave it a thought and didnt remember getting any reminder
Rushed to the post office to see if I could renew it there
Nope, the lady scared the shit out of me with tales of hefty fines,
losing entitlement, retaking tests and such and I'd have to do it by post.
Hence the 'oh shit.......' etc
Got the ugly pics from the PO machine,
forms off the net, wrote my first cheque in years,
a signature from a 'professional person' to attest I was who i was and sent it off.
I'd heard of guys renewing licenses to find their bike entitlement
had disappeared from their renewed license so all in all
it was an uneasy time
When It arrived 2 weeks later I hastily checked for the 'A'
Phew! it was there !
so was all the other stuff like C1+E/D1+E and all that
Apparently I'm not/wasn't the only dumb bastard driving/riding about
on an expired license, so if you've been driving/riding for years I suggest you check yours
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Didn't the old paper license last for 50 years? ____________________ Yamaha MT-03 '08 (crashed)
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I think mine expires next year. I might have to "change address" again though to avoid fees. ____________________ My Flickr |
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Damn silly administrative bollocks. Thank Brussels for this one, again. They "expire" only in order to keep the photograph up to date, because the Eurostazi do love to demand "Papers, please".
It wouldn't worry me that much. Quoth Dara Ó Briain, yes, it's expired, but I'm still me. Dibble and the CPS might care, but would a Magistrate or Sheriff? ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Had a similar scenario back on the Isle of Man with my provisional licence.
I needed ID at the post office, so handed the assistant my license, only to be told that he couldn't accept it as it was out of date. (as I'm stood there in full biking gear, with my lid in my hand).
It turns out a provisional licence only lasts 12 months over there and they don't send you a reminder.
My own fault though for not reading the small print. |
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have to re-new mine every 5 years and pay for a medical
valid till may 2018. ____________________ Whatever I post I have no citation and no intention of providing one..
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Handed mines over to Sgt at appraisal 2 months ago as they now note date of expiry.
Ehhhhhhh. This is nearly 4 years out of date the Sgt says..
Woops
Quick visit to post office and renewed it . ____________________ Yes I'm a pig....And yes... The working public do pay my wages. Tho I contribute to your benefits you lazy c##t. You do not pay my wages. So go fcuk yourself. |
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Pay for the medical... been banned for drink/drugs?
When I have a license I get a three year one.  |
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| WD Forte |
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Insurance comperknees come to mind
You know how they love to quibble and wriggle out of coughing up the dosh so an expired license might be just the thing to get
"Oh dear, we're sorry but you see...................."
Edit
just saw this page and its not the license per se
but the photo that expires, so the insurance thing is irrelevant
kwote:
"The supermarket bank carried out a further survey
and found that fewer than one in three of those drivers
with an expired licence are aware that it has expired.
A further 10million people do not know when their licence expires
and 14 per cent of expired photo card licences have been
out-of-date since 2009 or before.
The research also revealed that the vast majority of drivers are
unaware of the true consequences of having an expired
photograph on their driving licence
That'd be me then.
Just 29 per cent know that it could make you liable for a £1,000
fine.
However, almost a third (31 per cent) of drivers incorrectly said
they thought it could invalidate your motor insurance
and 27 per cent thought it could mean getting points on your licence.
Interestingly, 13 per cent of drivers thought it could result in your car being confiscated."
That's what the woman in the PO told me !!!!!!
had me cacking me pants she did
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-2081666/Driving-licence-trap-1-6m-drivers-risk-hefty-fine-renewing-photograph-20-cost.html#ixzz36mK1uKq7
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| daemonoid wrote: | | Rogerborg wrote: | Damn silly administrative bollocks. Thank Brussels for this one, again. They "expire" only in order to keep the photograph up to date, because the Eurostazi do love to demand "Papers, please".
It wouldn't worry me that much. Quoth Dara Ó Briain, yes, it's expired, but I'm still me. Dibble and the CPS might care, but would a Magistrate or Sheriff? |
Might be true if Europe actually recognised the driving license as ID... But I'm yet to find a Euro country other than the UK that does. |
In Cyprus they want photo ID for everything official, however they didn't seem too bothered how up to date your ID was, I used my old passport to save carrying and possibly losing the current one!
They accepted the UK, photocard licence, you were supposed to swap this for a Cyprus licence within 12 months of residing there, I never bothered in 6 years, and never had any problems! Still have my UK licence! ____________________ "Everybody needs money, that's why they call it money!"  |
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I wonder what the fine / penalty will be in 2015 when we all have to have photo licence apparently (no paper counterpart).
As I have a paper licence that hasn't expired then so valid for me to drive (I'm presuming). So no actual driving/insurance/whatever offences based on licence.
However, would not have a photo licence. So a good telling off?
So, licences only valid for 10 years from 2015 then! ____________________ ...and the whirlwind is in the thorn trees, it's hard for thee to kick against the pricks...
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| daemonoid wrote: | | Rogerborg wrote: | Damn silly administrative bollocks. Thank Brussels for this one, again. |
Might be true if Europe actually recognised the driving license as ID... But I'm yet to find a Euro country other than the UK that does. |
Then it's just spiteful bureaucracy, huzzah.
2006/126/EC, Article 7, 2 (a)
Might change when the ID chips go in them. There's already space mandated for one, but they're not mandatory just yet. Which is really jolly nice of them. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Just checked mine, and I'm ok till 07/07/2015
I wasn't even aware until recently that they had to be updated intermittantly. ____________________ 1st bike (Sept'06 - May'10) : 1991 GPZ500S / Current bike (since Nov 2009) : 2003 Suzuki Bandit 600N
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| Rogerborg wrote: | ...2006/126/EC, Article 7, 2 (a)...... | Ok, I'm a sucker for a google search, found it here....
| EU wrote: | Article 7 Issue Validity and Renewal
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2.
(a)
As from 19 January 2013, licences issued by Member States for categories AM, A1, A2, A, B, B1 and BE shall have an administrative validity of 10 years.
A Member State may choose to issue such licences with an administrative validity of up to 15 years;
(b)
As from 19 January 2013, licences issued by Member States for categories C, CE, C1, C1E, D, DE, D1, D1E shall have an administrative validity of 5 years;
(c)
The renewal of a driving licence may trigger a new administrative validity period for another category or categories the licence holder is entitled to drive, insofar as this is in conformity with the conditions laid down in this Directive;
(d)
The presence of a microchip pursuant to Article 1 shall not be a prerequisite for the validity of a driving licence. The loss or unreadability of the microchip, or any other damage thereto, shall not affect the validity of the document.
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FWIW Article 7(2)(c) does allow for a licence to be valid indefinitely.
I'm also confused as ANNEX I Part 3 would seem to suggest you need to declare modifications to motorcycle so they appear on your licence? e.g. | EU wrote: | 44.08 Seat height allowing the driver, in sitting position, to have two feet on the road at the same time |
I'm thinking problems ahead as UK governments tend to implement all parts of EU directives where the rest of the EU just gives a gaelic shrug. ____________________ ...and the whirlwind is in the thorn trees, it's hard for thee to kick against the pricks...
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