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 FlightRisk Spanner Monkey

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 Posted: 17:11 - 13 Jul 2014 Post subject: Toolkit on a tight budget advice? |
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So I've realised how little I know about mechanic-ing tools, but I know a little more than I did 2 days ago. Now I know there are 6 and 12 pointed sockets and wall-drive (which is pretty cool).
I already have screwdrivers and hex keys & bits and pliers - small stuff like that.
My spannering ambitions are this type of thing to begin with:
remove rear wheel to go get tyre
remove exhaust to paint
adjust head bearing
fork seals
bleed brakes
clean carbs
I saw the Halfords sets on sale ( I can haz ALL THE TOOLZ!? ) but on closer inspection whatever I was looking at had loads of imperial stuff I don't need.
I'd rather keep things minimal and have some nicer quality stuff than loads of stuff I won't use. I did pick up this RAC branded spanner set (https://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/7004250.htm) for £13 but I don't know... Has good reviews and says it's chrome vanadium but it doesn't feel like real steel, I'm nearly scared to use it!
I don't know whether I should be spending money on spanners or sockets, or which sizes to go for, or if I should be looking for a set with deep sockets?
I guess ratchet spanners are more of a luxury thing, like if you'd be using them all the time?
Can you get combination spanners with the 6 points on the ring end? |
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| Wonko The Sane |
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I have a socket set bought for me by my parents a while ago so I don't know the cost.
The set comprises large and small ratchet handle, screwdriver handle and a spark plug socket or two.
sizes 4mm through 30mm (probably won't need the large end of those!
small, med, large allen key, cross head, flat head and torx screwdriver bits.
This along with a decent size adjustable wrench and a pair of long nosed pliers has served me well thus far.
Helps for me that Kawasaki deliberately use different sized heads on bolts so that a 17mm is needed one end and a 15mm the other, kind of handy.
I do have some ratchet spanners which are handy for spaces you can't get a socket into - mine are halfrauds ones.
A torque wrench may come in handy from time to time (I'm just finding this out myself)
You may need additional tools for the fork seals
Places like machine mart, screwfix etc may be cheaper for tools than halfrauds but of similar quality. ____________________ Looking to pass your CBT / Bike tests in Bury Lancashire? try www.focusridertraining.co.uk Would recommend.
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 Posted: 18:49 - 13 Jul 2014 Post subject: Re: Toolkit on a tight budget advice? |
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| TimeCheese wrote: | So I've realised how little I know about mechanic-ing tools, but I know a little more than I did 2 days ago. Now I know there are 6 and 12 pointed sockets and wall-drive (which is pretty cool).
I already have screwdrivers and hex keys & bits and pliers - small stuff like that.
My spannering ambitions are this type of thing to begin with:
remove rear wheel to go get tyre
remove exhaust to paint
adjust head bearing
fork seals
bleed brakes
clean carbs
I saw the Halfords sets on sale (  I can haz ALL THE TOOLZ!?  ) but on closer inspection whatever I was looking at had loads of imperial stuff I don't need.
I'd rather keep things minimal and have some nicer quality stuff than loads of stuff I won't use. I did pick up this RAC branded spanner set ( https://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/7004250.htm) for £13 but I don't know... Has good reviews and says it's chrome vanadium but it doesn't feel like real steel, I'm nearly scared to use it!
I don't know whether I should be spending money on spanners or sockets, or which sizes to go for, or if I should be looking for a set with deep sockets?
I guess ratchet spanners are more of a luxury thing, like if you'd be using them all the time?
Can you get combination spanners with the 6 points on the ring end? |
They are called wall-drive spanners, imperial stuff will more than likely wasted money and space, money on sockets, spanners and DECENT screwdrivers, cheap screwdrivers will start to round screws off very quickly. A punch set, feeler gauges, and a manual impact driver should see you set for most jobs |
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| Pete. |
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 Posted: 19:11 - 13 Jul 2014 Post subject: |
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A 13 quid RAC branded set from Argos is not going to be good quality because 1. Argos stuff is over-priced tat and 2. If it's RAC branded they will be paying a cut to them for the endorsement.
You don't need new tools, how about visiting a few boot fairs or asking around the family? ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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Buy it as you need it then  ____________________ Honda Varadero >> Triumph Speed Four >> Honda CBR1100xx |
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Very good little set, missing a few of my adaptor bits and I broke the hinges but still going strong. Currently use it at work. ____________________ Honda Varadero >> Triumph Speed Four >> Honda CBR1100xx |
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I know I'm going to be going against the grain a little here, but you don't need awesome tools.
as long as you don't expect tools from poundland to cause you anything but grief, you'll be fine. Christ, I've done cylinder head exchanges with tools that some of the snapon fanbois wouldn't shit on, but they worked, and didn't fuck anything.
get the most comprehensive stuff you can afford, and as you save yourself money by doing things yourself, upgrade.
and before anyone thinks I'm some sort of uninformed cretin - this is the opinion of a marine engineer of 16 years experience
good effort for giving it a go yourself OP, just don't get too bogged down in the expensive details (but don't go buying poundland shite either ) ____________________ Past - 1988 honda revere 600, 1996 kawasaki gpz500s, 1999 Yamaha R6
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halfords profesional range is up to the job, but carries a price tag.
I've yet to break any tool I've bought from Aldi, I'm half way through a house renovation that has killed dewalt, bosch and black&decker drills but not my aldi one!
Don't underestimate or rule out aldi tools. ____________________ Looking to pass your CBT / Bike tests in Bury Lancashire? try www.focusridertraining.co.uk Would recommend.
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Wotcha.
Many moons ago I bought a socket set. It cost me just over three and a half week's wages. I still have it. OK, the ratchet and one socket got lost when they fell from my pocket ( lesson to be learned here ) on the way to the local garage. One socket got worn out - the 5/16 Whitworth - but the rest are fine and I still use 'em to this day.
Tl;dr. Buy good and buy once. ____________________ Cheers.
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 FlightRisk Spanner Monkey

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I got given the first 1/4 inch set for Xmas by my in laws. Absolutely brilliant little set for the money I use it pretty much daily and it hasn't failed me yet. And the deep sockets are a bonus too. ____________________ Past - 1988 honda revere 600, 1996 kawasaki gpz500s, 1999 Yamaha R6
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OK, I've just about decided on this Draper Expert 3/8 set as a nice mix of price vs quality & useful sizes (6-24mm).
One question though; my rear axle nut is 24mm, is a 3/8 drive up surviving the level of torque needed for a rear axle?
Haynes manual says 90 Nm. |
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Fork seals... to get the bushings and seals in you need a seal driver. Don't buy one though, you can make one with a few bits of PVC pipe and two jubilee clips. As per https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrmYJgcGX30
Used this method to do my fork seals a few days ago, worked a treat!  ____________________ Previous - Sinnis Apache - Honda Bros 400 - Yamaha SR500 - Honda Transalp - Kawasaki ZX-7R - Honda CB-1 - Honda 929 Fireblade - Honda NTV650 [b]Current[\b] Honda CB500 |
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| TimeCheese wrote: | OK, I've just about decided on this Draper Expert 3/8 set as a nice mix of price vs quality & useful sizes (6-24mm).
One question though; my rear axle nut is 24mm, is a 3/8 drive up surviving the level of torque needed for a rear axle?
Haynes manual says 90 Nm. |
I have a draper expert set, bit more comprehensive than that one but still 3/8's drive. I've had it for about 15-20 years and had no issues. I have used it to undo wheel nuts on a landrover, using an extension (scaffold) tube, and wound up bending the T bar a bit when I bounced on it but the 3/8" drive was fine.
I'd always go for good quality stuff second hand off fleabay or the like. Second hand tools sell for next to nothing and last several lifetimes so are an excellent bargain. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 11 years, 201 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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