RACE tuned mini moto's - Only ?250 - upto 45mph !!

Ghost Racing · Derestricted Danger Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Karma :

Hello all

Most of you will have heard about or seen some of the very cheap mini moto's available out there and have most probably hoped if only the real blata's or polini's were as cheap as them - I'd definately get one!

Well unfortunately I don't have the actual blata's for £250 but what I do have is a mini moto better than any other you will have seen at this price! Please have a look at the specification on our bikes - they are already upgraded with approx £100 of racing bits!

The pictures below are of the actual bikes we have - we have them in stock in various colours some different ones from the pictures below also available, however I can't guarantee that we will have a particularlar colour in stock due to stock levels changing!

All bikes come brand new & boxed, with manual, mixing bottle, paddock stand, fully customising sticker set and Tool kit.

https://img64.exs.cx/img64/3833/ghostminis6wh.jpg

specs is as follows on it :

Over £100 of Fitted extra's come as standard including:

• K&N style air filter – allows engine to breath freely increasing power
• Racing Exhaust – Expansion chamber giving increased power & better sound
• Stronger Square Frame – added strength (not full tubular frame)
• Up Rated Forks – Strengthened forks
• Race Callipers – Stronger Brakes to cope with increased power
• Bigger Reeds – Increased engine performance
• Paintwork – quality paintwork in a variety of race replica colours.

ENGINE: 49cc 2 Stroke
COOLING: Air Cooling
START: Pull Start
SPEED: 40+mph
BRAKES: Front & Rear Disc Brakes
DRIVE: Chain Driven
WHEEL: 10" Wheels
EXHAUST: Performance Exhaust
MAX LOAD: 110Kg
FUEL TANK: 2 Litre
MIX: 20:1 (50:1 after worn in)
SIZE: 97 x 56 x 58 cm
WEIGHT: 21Kg

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS JUST ASK AWAY OR GIVE ME A CALL!

THANKS

nAz
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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

You say this bike is race tuned.

Yet race tuned 49cc bikes should be able to reach 70mph or so.

So, why is it that yours make so much less power to produce this much lower speed?

Also, you mention blata bikes. Blata only make one fast bike, the rest are fairly low quality non-competitive bikes. Which one is yours like?

daz|n00by · The Internet Joined: 11 May 2004 Karma :

would you be any part of the muscbros company that was on her abusing people by any chance ?
seems he was in the same local as you
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Ghost Racing · Derestricted Danger Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Karma :

and hello to you to...

a 'normal' mini moto thats an import like these are would reach about 30 - 35mph, with the enhancements we have done on these they do an extra 10mph on average.

Unfortunately not everyone can afford Blata's if they could there would be no need for imports!

Sorry mate - I wouldn't say BOO to anyone let alone abuse.

Thanks for the replies by the way

regards

Naz
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simon1221 · World Chat Champion Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Karma :

70mph on a mini moto Shocked

thatd be terrifying, i would be scared of falling off, being only about 2ft from the ground
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Ghost Racing · Derestricted Danger Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Karma :

well.. we have some liquid cooled ones which reach about 60mph which are pretty scary!
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Ghost Racing · Derestricted Danger Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Karma :

Just done a little bit of research

Blata mini moto's reach speeds of only 35mph which would make my bikes FASTER!!

read below

Blata MiniMoto

Powered by a 39cc 2-stroke petrol engine, these pocket rockets can reach speeds of approximately 35mph, which may sound pretty tame but believe us feels more like 300mph when your backside is just inches from the ground. You'll be wanting to make doubly sure that you are wearing full protection when you get astride one of these mean machines

TAKEN FROM FIREBOX LINK BELOW
https://www.firebox.com/index.html?dir=firebox&action=product&pid=573
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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

The Blata Origami makes a claimed 14.5 hp; with the right gearing 70mph shouldn't be a problem if it had this power. This claimed figure is the same as the limit for a restricted 125.

Until recently this was the only decent bike Blata made; the rest are considered to be cheap copies. You are comparing your bikes to these cheap low quality ones.
Bikes such as the one you are selling are considered to be cheap copies of cheap copies, as most are an originally taken from the blata design.

The only class that 49cc bikes can race in is 'supers', this would put it against the above blatas. So I would suggest it is not infact race tuned. If that is the case then it is incredibly badly done.
I'm amused that you mention polinis and blatas as similar; almost all of the bikes that polini makes are at least 'ok', if not good. Most of te bikes blata makes are considered inferior to 'proper' minimotos.

Also, do you have any proof that your bikes do the claimed speed? I have speed tested a minimoto with 6.2hp and it came out at about that. I doubt your example makes that much power.

Anyway, I don't see that these bikes are actually bad for some cheap fun in a car park. I have ridden a similar one recently and was pleasantly suprised that it wasn't as bad as I expected.
However selling them as 'race tuned' seems totally inappropriate and would seem to me to display a worrying lack of knowledge on your part.

Ghost Racing · Derestricted Danger Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Karma :

hiya

please read my post before you start criticising!

I have NOT said my bikes are better than BLATA's this is what I wrote

"Well unfortunately I don't have the actual blata's for £250 but what I do have is a mini moto better than any other you will have seen at this price!"

what I'm saying is the mini moto I do is better than what you will usually get at £250.

Also you will find that the Origami is a liquid cooled bike which is a completely different class to the air cooled.

I did NOT ask you if you liked the bikes nor did I ask for a report on what you thought of them - UNTIL you have tested my bikes I suggest you do not RUBBISH them.

I'm just not making a claim that the bikes do 45mph I KNOW they do as they have been tested and have clocked that speed - the guy riding it was 12 stone, on a good day on tarmac. We state in the specs they do 40mph + as the speed you get will depend on weather / road conditions as well as the weight of the rider.

Try one - I'm telling you YOU WILL BE PLEASED!
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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

Ghost Racing · Derestricted Danger Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Karma :

G

thanks I appreciate your vast knowledge on the subject of MINI MOTO.

Regards

Naz
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Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

So are they race tuned and do you have any proof of the 45mph top speed? Confused

nick.h · World Chat Champion Joined: 12 Sep 2004 Karma :

do you have it in for this guy Laughing

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stormwarning · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 04 Jan 2005 Karma :

Everyone's entitled to an opinion. The fella is offering his bikes for sale and then we can all make up our minds.

Personally I wouldn't touch a chinky import, having ridden one and owned Blatas, that's MY opinion.

So, good luck to ya mate, yer gonna need it. Confused

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Ghost Racing · Derestricted Danger Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Karma :

I never expected such a hard time on the forum but fair do's we all have our own opinions.

in responce to the question if they are race tuned:

Yes according to us the bikes are race tuned as they have been giving the following upgrades - I'll leave it up to you to decide if this would in your opinion be classed as 'Race Tuned'.

Over £100 of Fitted extra's come as standard including:
•K&N style air filter – allows engine to breath freely increasing power
•Racing Exhaust – Expansion chamber giving increased power & better sound
•Stronger Square Frame – added strength (not full tubular frame)
•Up Rated Forks – Strengthened forks
•Race Callipers – Stronger Brakes to cope with increased power
•Bigger Reeds – Increased engine performance
•paintwork – quality paintwork in a variety of race replica colours.

45mph was clocked by one of the employees, on the specs we state 40mph plus as it will depend on the rider, weather conditions & where you are riding it.

All I can say is I sell a lot of these and if I was making false claims about it then I'd be getting a lot of complaint's which I don't get. Also some well known websites feature our bikes (they are known as ghost bikes) and if our claims were false they wouldn't feature them!
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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

Ghost Racing · Derestricted Danger Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Karma :

hello again G!

I understand where you are coming from regarding all mini moto dealers saying their bikes are great quality... the reason I know mine are better is because I know we have invested more money than any other importer and upgraded the bike all round. Many dealers buy our bikes & sell them at a higher price than they do the usual china imports. We have also been told this by many of our dealers who pay slightly more for our bikes as they don't have the usual problems with them as they do with other imported ones.

About racing them it would depend what bikes you are racing our bikes against. We class them as 'race tuned' to highlight to our buyers the difference between what they normally go for & the enhancements we have on our ones. Also I have to use this when I'm explaining to dealers why our trade prices may be slightly higher than what they normally pay for a mini moto...

At the end of the day they are just for fun & a good laugh and you are not spending the crazy amount on them that you would on an actual branded mini moto.

And about not FLAMIN... I prefer to not resort to that!

NOW HOW ABOUT SOME POSITIVE REPLYS - I think I deserve it lol!!!
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culpan · Renault 5 Driver Joined: 10 Jun 2004 Karma :

Hmm i dont know much about Mini motos but i do think it is kind of misleading saying they are race tunned, which from what G has been saying they would struggle against some other make of Mini motos.

Main thing is that you say:

Ghost Racing · Derestricted Danger Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Karma :

I know where you are coming from & what G was saying but I don't think that I am misleading when I say they are race tuned but i'll leave it for you guys to decide on that.

I've explained my reason's why we class them as that is simply to differenciate them from what the 'normal' china imports are like and how mine are upgraded to a better model.

COME ON SOMEONE MUST WANT ONE!

I got other products too, but I'm not sure if I can take such a battering on them like I have on these lol
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Sparks! · Sir Tart-a-lot Joined: 30 Aug 2003 Karma :

Race tuned is misleading, that's all G is saying... "race" tuned means tuned to race, not just "uprated" as you say. Your imports /may/ well be the best ones, but they are uprated, NOT race tuned. Stating that they are race tuned may well mislead some people looking to start racing, as they see "race tuned" yadda yadda and presume they have built to be competitive in racing!

Your bikes are "uprated", I personally don't doubt your claimed speed, they probably do that speed, they look pretty decent compared to other imports and look cosmetically a lot better, and also look better quality from the pictures. And the uprated bits sound cool Cool

too...

The only reason you've taken a battering here, is because someone called "MuskBros" came on here last week trying to sell cheap crappy midi moto's, then proceeded to flame and insult half the forum Thumbs Down

... so as you can see some people are a bit techy when t comes to people trying to flog mini motos Laughing

We aren't a bad lot really though Wink

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Ghost Racing · Derestricted Danger Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Karma :

Thanks!

No, I'm not gonna start abusing anyone - I'm quite nice really!

And I'm not associated with the guy you mentioned.

What I can say is if any of you guys are local to us and you are interested in buying one, you are more than welcome to come and take a look. I suggest this as then you can personally rate them and not just take my word for it.

We are based in East London about 5 mins away from the West Ham Football ground.
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stormwarning · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 04 Jan 2005 Karma :

Trouble is, mimi-motos have been done to death. Nobody really wants them any more as the novelty value has worn off, and the Plod are onto ppl using them in car parks.

That's why I said you're gonna need good luck, there's too many of you out there and most of you are selling chinky stuff.

If you wanna know about MM's check out this site and get the truth about thw hole spectrum https://www.minimotoclub.co.uk/vb/index.php?
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Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

People do still want minimoto to use at minimoto tracks, but people don't want the cheap lower quality ones.

Ghost Racing · Derestricted Danger Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Karma :

well I can assure you these are not the CHEAP lower quality bikes!
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gtvipergt · Derestricted Danger Joined: 04 Feb 2005 Karma :

hey ghost bikes i am about to buy a midi moto x8 from your site are these imports are they reliable how long wil they last before the high compression in the engine will cause it too break considering these are £400 odd pound i would like to know these things ???

thanks

gt viper gt