Blowing Exhaust - Avoid??

MissBex · Scooby Slapper Joined: 13 Jul 2011 Karma :

Heya all, looking for my first bike and I've found one that seems good from a dealer advertising on ebay but he states the only problem with it is that it's got a blowing exhaust. He says:

"PLEASE NOTE ONE OF THE EXHAUST STUDS IS SNAPPED SO THE EXHAUST IS BLOWING AT THE HEAD - EXHAUST IS GOOD SO WILL NEED NEW CLAMPS AND STUD."

It's PX to clear. Lady owner for 8 years. 32000 miles on it. Looks pretty standard all over. Sold with MOT Till Sept 2014.

It's a good price but I was wondering if this is an easy/cheap job to fix or should I avoid it?
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DrDonnyBrago · World Chat Champion Joined: 03 Jan 2010 Karma :

Snapped studs are usually a complete pain in the arse to sort.

I'm guessing the owner tried to remove the exhaust to replace, only to find the studs seized in place and starting to snap. As such, expect a few more to snap on you when removing the exhaust to sort the broken stud.

Snapped studs require heat, oil and loads of patience and/or luck, or if that fails, drilling out. Drilling can go very wrong very quick.

BCF search snapped exhaust stud - loads of threads.

wr6133 · World Chat Champion Joined: 31 Dec 2013 Karma :

Avoid. Pain in the arse thing to sort yourself and possibly expensive to get someone else to sort.

Think of it this way if it was going to be an easy fix the dealer would sort it and sell it for more.

chris-red · Have you considered a TDM? Joined: 21 Sep 2005 Karma :

I wouldn't trust a dealer that wouldn't sort that out before selling.
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gbrand42 · Could Be A Chat Bot Joined: 23 Jul 2013 Karma :

How about asking him for a quote to repair it either at cost or mates rates? If his mechanic has some spare time it might be worth it. If he turns it down then he has already looked at it and decided it's not worth it to him economically. So walk away, there will always be a bike with your name on it out there.
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Teflon-Mike · tl;dr Joined: 01 Jun 2010 Karma :

What bike is it?
How old is it?
How 'cheap' is it?
SOMETIMES, exhaust studs shear; you get the pipe off, then can get mile grips in on the remaining shank, to wind out the stubb..
Most times?
You end up with snapped cooling fins; holes in shanks, filled with broken hardened steel EZ-Out, chewed up metal galore, burned fingers, and resort to taking the head off, taking it to a reconditioners, and getting it machined, and helicoiled... and it might be back on the road for Summer 2016.
They can, in short be a bitch.
and I wouldn't take the lack of fix by the dealer to mean he's 'sharp'... but its a problem he probably knows only too well, is better left to some-one more nieve, foollish and optimistic...

Do you want a bike to ride, or do you want a bike to fix?
If former... buy one that dont need 'fixing'.
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Matt B · World Chat Champion Joined: 01 May 2012 Karma :

If it was an easy fix the dealer would have sorted it before trying to sell.
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Ariel Badger · Super Spammer Joined: 02 Dec 2006 Karma :

Model, year and price...
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MissBex · Scooby Slapper Joined: 13 Jul 2011 Karma :

Yeah I think I'll give it a miss then. It was a 2001 Honda Hornet. Dealer has it on there for £1295. I messaged him earlier today about the cost of him fixing it and so far no reply.
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Ariel Badger · Super Spammer Joined: 02 Dec 2006 Karma :

Looking at Ebay prices that does not look like much of a bargain.
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Shaft · World Chat Champion Joined: 27 Dec 2010 Karma :

From our very own for sale pages

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=292699

You might get a BCF discount or some sort of deal on delivery, doesn't hurt to ask.
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Vincent · Banned Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Karma :

Exhaust studs aren't always a pain to get out...it depends how accessible they are and how much of the stud is left protruding. Just did three on my bike and, once I bought the right tool, they all came out quite easily.
Sometimes, things like this can be good for the buyer - other buyers are put off and the seller eventually drops the price. Tell the owner that you've spoken to a mechanic and he says that the head may need to come off to fix the stud and it could cost up to £400 Wink

If local, get a good close up pic of the offending stud and post it on here, you're not far from me and I could remove the stud for a packet of fags Thumbs Up

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MissBex · Scooby Slapper Joined: 13 Jul 2011 Karma :

Thanks for the help and advice all. It is tempting but I do think I can probably wait & search around for something better. It was about 65 miles away from me.

I'm currently looking at a 1998 Hornet on bid atm £900 and only 47 miles away. It says on the ad it was MOT'd last month, It had a full service at a local dealer last September and has had rear brake pads and a master cylinder kit recently fitted.

Is the fact a master cyclinder kit been fitted anything of concern or?
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Vincent · Banned Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Karma :

Vincent · Banned Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Karma :

Seen this?:-

www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/honda-600-hornet/1073787685#photo-content

If at all possible, try not to let distance get in the way of buying a good bike Wink

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Vincent · Banned Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Karma :

The buyer can factor in things like new chain and sprockets, filters, tyres etc......and I personally don't mind paying a bit more if these things are new...but, sadly for the seller, they have little effect on book price.

i think they're a lot of bike for these sort of prices...down to the age I guess. 'Strange there are so many low mileage Hornets about, 20 to 30k miles for a 15 year old bike seems quite low to me Thinking

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MissBex · Scooby Slapper Joined: 13 Jul 2011 Karma :

Right, I was planning to go an view the white one as it seems almost too good to be true but it's 2 hours away and I don't really know anyone to go with atm. So I'm going to find a hornet somewhere as local as possible, I think the local dealer has one, and sit on it before I go down there to see if I can comfortably reach the floor on it. Hopefully he won't have sold it before then, but if it's meant to be it's meant to be.
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Wednesday Biker · Spanner Monkey Joined: 11 Sep 2014 Karma :

Its the same bike I was interested in.But it just isn't a job I could do and it wasn't quite as clean as it looked in the pics.But decent nick all the same.
They are quite busy and I think they put it on the back burner and are hoping somebody comes and takes up the diy offer.They have quite a few bikes and do a lot of track day stuff.
Very honest guys and never seem in a rush to sell the bikes.They probably will do it up at some point and then I might go back and have a second look myself.