keeway issues

phlegmatical · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 25 Nov 2013 Karma :

ok my keeway superlight 125 (yes i do regret buying it!) has had a couple of issues since buying it and all but one either me or the garage have solved.

the one issue im still having and have asked before here is with pulling off.

From cold in the morning it pulls off ok but as the bike starts to warm it struggles to move off and i have to really give it some revs to get get it moving (which seem to take forever to build up) then i get a clunk and jolt as if something has engaged and it will move.

once the bike has got going it runs great and no other issues!

I know it is not me that is the issue as i have just done my cbt and completed mod 1 and 2 using a couple of different bikes and I have had other bikes in the past and never had this problem.

searches i have done have gave me no answers to this other than basically its a 125 single cylinder bike and it happens, the dealer i got it from has said "thats how all keeways ride".

Any thoughts/advice?

Cheers!

Vincent · Banned Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Karma :

Is it the same if you run it on choke for a few minutes?

Some engines behave a lot differently once warmed up.

What's the mileage Question

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humanbeing · Nova Slayer Joined: 20 Mar 2011 Karma :

Chinese bike are famous for extra lean to scam that "Euro 3"
-turn the mix screw / fatter pilot jet

phlegmatical · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 25 Nov 2013 Karma :

It only does it when bike is warm and my bike won't run with choke on when it is warm. It has done about 800 miles.

Sorry but where is the mix screw and how much do I adjust it? Is that the screw i adjust for idle speed? If so i have adjusted that already as it was too low and bike kept cutting out but is fine now. I'm not all that technical Embarassed

Pete. · Super Spammer Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Karma :

Don't piss about with the mixture just yet. It doesn't even fit the symptoms if they are being described correctly. Taking them at face value, your problem seems to lie with the clutch. A better description of the symptoms is required.

This is a manual clutch bike - right?

You're starting it up on choke with the oil cold and riding away normally. do you ride gently when it's cold or do you set off at your normal pace?

How does the bike run on choke? Does it pull well or is it a bit lackluster?

How long from starting cold do you suffer the problem? Is It as soon as the choke comes off?

Once the choke comes off does it pull forwards but slip when you apply throttle or does it just not move at all?

Revving it until it engages is a very poor idea. It'll cause damage and lots of wear and contaminate the oil. Try to avoid this course of action even if it seems like it's curing the symptoms.
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P. · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

When did you last change the oil?

My Keeway had minimal miles and had a horrible clutch judder... was like it was spinning at half speed then a sudden crunch. Chain was slack and oil was essentially tar Rolling Eyes

phlegmatical · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 25 Nov 2013 Karma :

P. · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

From new, I'd do it at 100, 250, 500 and 1000 at the minimum. Doesn't need to be high quality, standard 10w40 from Tesco would be fine.

I'd do it now.

phlegmatical · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 25 Nov 2013 Karma :

P. · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

It is simple as long as you take it slow and read before you do it Thumbs Up

Pete. · Super Spammer Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Karma :

So it's a manual clutch bike that rides fine for 5 miles then the clutch refuses to engage without a fight? Most unusual. Change the oil first, use medium quality semi synth 10w30 or whatever grade is recommended. See if the problem persists. The most important thing about changing your oil is to make sure you don't over tighten the sump plug.
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unitynotsocri... · Banned Joined: 29 Jun 2011 Karma :

Look for a big nut/cover on the left hand side , it may contain a wire mesh oil filter . Being a new bike you can expect bits of metal in the filter . centrifugal oil filters need cleaning far less .
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phlegmatical · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 25 Nov 2013 Karma :

Well I did an oil change and cleaned the filter out. Easier than I thought it would be!

Made no difference though!! Got the bike booked in at the dealers in a couple of weeks so see what happens then!

Pete. · Super Spammer Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Karma :

As I've said so many times before, if you put your location in your profile you might find someone close by who could take a look.
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phlegmatical · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 25 Nov 2013 Karma :

CestrianX · Renault 5 Driver Joined: 08 Nov 2010 Karma :

Probably mentioned by someone else but is 10/40 semi-synthetic oil for a car suitable for your bike? Car oil has extra additives that make it extra slippery and so NOT suitable for a bike's wet clutch.