So Scottish independance....

[mudcow007]

i know there a few Scot's in here, what do you think of the debate last night?

[Ste]

Scots in here? They're all hiding in their regional forum.

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They daren't haven't let it be shown outside Scottishland but I did come across The Telegraph's blow by blow account.

Apparently the NO vote, re: Alistair Darling, came out ahead as Salmond was a tad flustered when asked direct questions (the impertinence, asking a direct question, enough to start a revolt).
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[UrbanRacer]

Yea Salmond fu*ked it up good and proper.

AD asked him about the currency and what if they couldn't use the £. he was asked several times and the audience got quite upset when he didn't answer the question. his only response was we'll use the £ because i say so.

then on the flip side AS used his chance to ask questions instead he was more interested in flippant comments made in mags and papers about "driving on the right", "Alien attacks" and "The Pandas at Edinburgh zoo". However AS did ask about a comment AD made in 2003 which he didn't answer directly but it certainly wasn't a vote winning question.

The audience had some hard questions for AS and again, didn't answer them directly.

Reading the comments on facef*ck and the like its not changed the minds of the hardcore nationalists but going by the polls today it would seem the undecided are now NO voters.

[Im-a-Ridah]

AD is quite weak in his role IMO, certainly not as good as Salmond is in his role. AD still wins because ultimately Salmond is a snake oil salesmen and his future for Scotland looks a bit like this:

https://www.sovereignindependentuk.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/house-of-cards.jpg%20

Currency? Oh ahh well dunny worry wee lad. Aye, used to build ships on the Clyde, now we draw them in the Job Centre.

Glasgow before independence

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/Camlachie_tower_blocks_in_2006.jpg

Glasgow after independence

https://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/67428000/jpg/_67428930_redroadavgrab.jpg

[Ribenapigeon]

Given what a fuckup AD was as chancelor I think he has a cheek lecturing people on Scotlands economic future.

[ScaredyCat]

Scotts might find this interesting...

https://www.scottishenergynews.com/lords-axe-holyroods-power-over-scottish-renewables/

I think they basically just said "frack you"...
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[Ste]

[Rogerborg]

Aaaand the back stabbing and post-defeat positioning begins.

Now that's the Scotch spirit.
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[DrDonnyBrago]

Watching it on STV player now, the currency discussion at about 28 mins (ish) onwards is hilarious.

[piazza]

How Salmond had the balls to stand there and ignore the question we all wanted the answer to was pathetic I hope all those locals with 'vote Yes' in the windows paid attention to the squirming ratbag.

I don't think much of his chances now!
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[Ste]

Why would they pay any attention to it now?

The same question has been raised time and time again in the press, time and time again he's given the same useless answers but the 'vote yes' camp have just believed every word Salmond comes out with.

It's amusing that Salmond was the one going on about wanting a debate about the independence referendum but he turns up without any answers to what many people consider to be the important question(s).

His attempts to use the threat of not taking Scotchlands share of the deficit is also amusing cos it shows how little research he's done as the cost of that debt is far less than the risk for the BoE to enter into a currency union.

Whatever the outcome of the vote, it'll still drag on for years cos if it's a yes vote then there'll be loads of democratic haggling and other such bollocks whilst if it's a no vote then Salmond will baww his eyes out and come up with conspiracy theories and other such bollocks.

The whole thing is such a waste of time and money.

I wonder if any of the vote yes camp will comment in this thread.

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[Rogerborg]

[damz]

I actually only just found out that night the debate was next door to my work, didn't care. I know people in England are sick of hearing people in Scotland talk about independence but trust me we hate it far more up here. It comes up at least once on a night out, in work meetings or just walking down the street.

There's an easy way to tell who is a Yes vote in scotland, they tell you and will tell you why you should be one.

I reckon Scotland will become independent one day, just not now. The SNP have totally cocked up the campaign by not answering questions, if they had a plan B for the currency, gave specific details about how things will happen like what will happen to my car insurance, what would happen to my passport, my drivers license.

I've lived in a lot of places but in Glasgow there's always the feeling it gets ignored in favor Edinburgh, they started work on a rail link to the airport in Glasgow but had to cancel it as they ran out of money blowing it all on the trams, they are trying to make Edinburgh and Prestwick airport better than Glasgow by subsiding them with tax payers money.

I see stickers all over Glasgow saying "End London Rule", I'd rather have London rule over Edinburgh rule.
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[Kickstart]

Hi

Suspect there is a fair chance that whatever the outcome it will be the end of Salmond. In the event of a No vote his main policy is dead (at least for a couple of decades), so pretty much the end of his career. In the event of a Yes vote then he becomes just another Scottish politician with the main policy that brought him to attention being no longer important.

All the best

Keith
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[Rogerborg]

Salmond is done and dusted now, Wee Nicky Sturgeon is already putting the knife in, as above.

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