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WD Forte
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PostPosted: 01:56 - 20 Aug 2014    Post subject: I was in full control....honest! Reply with quote

We've probably all seen the vid by now but
just noticed on the beeb site the rider's been done for dangerous driving and said in court:
"I was in full control until I hit the fence"
In control?
OMG
WTF
STFU
Is that the best you can do?

Obviously not a canny bcf-er who would have probably
worn a suit, kept a straight face and said something like
they'd just overtaken a KTM rider and went too fast cos
he thought he was going to get chased, robbed and bum raped
for his cheek
"There's a lot of that goes on yer honour, I seen it on BCF.
well not exactly seen it, not yet, but was told about it
and waiting for the video to upload, but they don't lie on bcf"
" By the way, I'm parked on the pavement outside, thass ok Innit?"
and got off with a caution.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-28856485
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PostPosted: 02:26 - 20 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, should obviously've manned the fuck up and admitted to full on twuntery. Far too many wankers like this in the world, with zilch integrity. Arrogant twat needs a kicking, to be fair.
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PostPosted: 02:28 - 20 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh dear Laughing

Brilliant PR for motorcyclists Rolling Eyes ffs
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PostPosted: 02:35 - 20 Aug 2014    Post subject: Re: I was in full control....honest! Reply with quote

WD Forte wrote:

"I was in full control until I hit the fence"


Laughing

Rolling Eyes


2.30am is not the time to be laughing as loud as I am when I read that... not when there are people sleeping inches away from me on the other side of the wall.


Fuck me, that's a terrible excuse. In no way was he in control, sure going for the wall may have been deliberate rather than hitting the car... but if he was in control he'd have kept the bike on the correct side of the road.

Take his licence away, with excuses like that he's obviously too stupid to be allowed on the roads.
I'm not sure which is more concerning... whether he thinks that excuse might wash, or if he actually believes it.



Far be it from me to judge him... but I will. Stood outside the court on his phone smoking with his skinny tie he looked like a right chav... wouldn't have surprised me to find out he used to be a trackies-wearing pedboi or riding up and down the street doing antisocial wheelies.


Part of this opinion is formed by jealousy that he can afford a better bike than I can, and anger that he rode said bike so hopelessly that he crashed it into a wall.



Seriously though I'm not sure what he expects, he puts up a video of him riding badly, well in excess of the speed limit, with no apparent skill or flow which results in him crashing and nearly hitting an oncoming vehicle. Open and shut case, no doubt it was dangerous riding.

"the way he/she drives falls far below what would be expected of a competent and careful driver, and it would be obvious to a competent and careful driver that driving in that way would be dangerous"




Side issue... why does the landowner want £1000 compensation. Surely he can just claim off the riders insurance for damage to property. That is what 3rd party insurance is for. (Unless the rider wasn't insured? which would be a further nail in his coffin)
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PostPosted: 02:40 - 20 Aug 2014    Post subject: Re: I was in full control....honest! Reply with quote

Llama-Farmer wrote:
Side issue... why does the landowner want £1000 compensation. Surely he can just claim off the riders insurance for damage to property. That is what 3rd party insurance is for. (Unless the rider wasn't insured? which would be a further nail in his coffin)
I was wondering about that - more the cost than anything - he seemed to clip the wall and not much. Traditional stone-walls may well be expensive to get professionally replaced, but £1000 Shocked Maybe lots of sheep escaped and got knocked down the following day Thinking
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PostPosted: 03:22 - 20 Aug 2014    Post subject: Re: I was in full control....honest! Reply with quote

The clip is far to short to judge his riding ability. He passed the bike quite wide and crossed solid lines - naughty, but not necessarily unsafe for a bike. speed about 70 round corner?

It appears the last corner was longer than he expected, rather than keep bike leant over he brakes, panics and target fixates on the car/fence.

Are survival reactions a crime (if noone is injured, no harm caused..)? they can and do happen to anyone.
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PostPosted: 03:47 - 20 Aug 2014    Post subject: Re: I was in full control....honest! Reply with quote

kramdra wrote:
The clip is far to short to judge his riding ability. He passed the bike quite wide and crossed solid lines - naughty, but not necessarily unsafe for a bike. speed about 70 round corner?

It appears the last corner was longer than he expected, rather than keep bike leant over he brakes, panics and target fixates on the car/fence.

Are survival reactions a crime (if noone is injured, no harm caused..)? they can and do happen to anyone.



That is only a very short part of the video... he was riding erratically, and riding aggressively close to another bike in the build up to this, hustling the other bike for quite some distance before finally overtaking in a questionable move, but that was edited out for BBCs article.

His positioning for that last corner was all wrong in the first place, he was too far left and ended up apexing before the corner tightened.

His speed he was riding wouldn't have been dangerous in itself, but if you are going to ride that fast, your positioning needs to be much better.

If you're going to hug the near side on a left hander then your speed needs to be reduced, its simple stuff really.
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PostPosted: 03:56 - 20 Aug 2014    Post subject: Re: I was in full control....honest! Reply with quote

Link to full?
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PostPosted: 06:02 - 20 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYkuYg5qvPI&feature=player_embedded
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PostPosted: 06:22 - 20 Aug 2014    Post subject: Re: I was in full control....honest! Reply with quote

kramdra wrote:
The clip is far to short to judge his riding ability. He passed the bike quite wide and crossed solid lines - naughty, but not necessarily unsafe for a bike. speed about 70 round corner?

It appears the last corner was longer than he expected, rather than keep bike leant over he brakes, panics and target fixates on the car/fence.

Are survival reactions a crime (if noone is injured, no harm caused..)? they can and do happen to anyone.


Okay, I'm listening. And am sort of revising my opinion a bit. But "It appears the last corner was longer than he expected, rather than keep bike leant over he brakes, panics and target fixates on the car/fence" is kind of all part of bad riding tbh.

Nor can I quite make it gel with being "in full control" until hitting the fence. Fixating, by definition, involves compromising if not losing control. By not taking it on the chin he's just being a fairly generously proportioned douche.
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PostPosted: 08:17 - 20 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see two over takes on solid white lines, which he captured & posted. Rolling Eyes
the actual crash as said above... inexperience Brick Wall
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PostPosted: 08:24 - 20 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems he wasn't in full control of his senses when he posted his exploits on Youtube!
Total and utter Wang, for this reason alone, IMO!
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PostPosted: 08:30 - 20 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty Boozehawkish in his comments on the video as well. Live and don't learn, that's his motto.
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PostPosted: 09:07 - 20 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should have used the defence 'I delivered quicker than a BCF'er'.
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PostPosted: 09:24 - 20 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

He was doing ok until he went too fast round that last bend and bottled it. That R1/6 was holding him up big style. The inexperience of youth...

Odd that his 1st reaction on landing was to pick up the cam and keep on filming. I'd have thought he'd swear a lot!
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PostPosted: 09:59 - 20 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Visibility was great at all times when he was over the white lines. I dont quite understand the seemingly random placement of them. I would have no problem passing where he did (noting first pass is just after a blind crest) White lines mean fuck all.
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PostPosted: 10:01 - 20 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

But to average motorists they see WOAHHHH!!!! crazy insane biker crossing double white lines! DOUBLE WHITE LINES!!!! speed kills!!!!
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PostPosted: 10:23 - 20 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, the pass looked fine. I imagine there's some beancounterish calculation about the distance it takes for a 60mph car to overtake a 40mph HGV... because of course nobody would exceed the speed limit to overtake.

That, or it's deliberate killjoying in order to push the traffic elsewhere, so that it becomes some other county's problem.

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Prison? For this???? Are you mad?? hahahahahahaa youre the idiot

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PostPosted: 10:26 - 20 Aug 2014    Post subject: Re: I was in full control....honest! Reply with quote

WD Forte wrote:

"I was in full control until I hit the fence"


Yes, he meant to cross the double white lines, and he meant to pass just in front of the oncoming car - just didn't mean to hit the fence Laughing

The rider turned out to be African; when asked what he had to say in his defence, he said, "de fence? de man wid de nails am coming to fix it!"

Sorry, coat, gone Embarassed
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PostPosted: 10:48 - 20 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would you keep the footage?!

First thing I'd do is snap the SD card in that situation, then think about lessons that need to be learned.
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PostPosted: 11:12 - 20 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a complete Knobhead.

Though that whole area is a 50mph limit isn't it?
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PostPosted: 11:30 - 20 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I appear to have been out-knobbed
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 20 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Young, dumb and full of...dumb.
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PostPosted: 12:06 - 20 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snorty wrote:
Why would you keep the footage?!

Well, there are many possible reasons but...

Hetzer wrote:
Young, dumb and full of...dumb.

About covers it. Read his comments on the video, he comes across as a proper hanger-hurling Jizz Bunny, and apparently continued that right through to his "defence" in court.

Gone a bit quiet now, though. Whistle
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