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PostPosted: 15:56 - 28 Aug 2014    Post subject: Theory before DAS Reply with quote

not sure if this is the right forum Smile

Just wondering if i need to pass my theory test before i book my DAS course?

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PostPosted: 15:59 - 28 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to pass your theory before you can book the tests, so if you want to do the DAS all in one go it would be best to do it first. Otherwise there could be gaps in your training while you wait for the theory pass.
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PostPosted: 15:59 - 28 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Currently the order to get a full cat A license, assuming you're over 25, is:

CBT -> Motorcycle Theory Test -> MOD1 -> MOD2.

Pass all these and you can then ride anything you can afford to run and insure.

I'd advise lots of revision before the theory test. It's £31 a pop where I am, not cheap, and you don't want to waste time and money redoing it.
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PostPosted: 16:37 - 28 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

rideslikeanob wrote:
Currently the order to get a full cat A license, assuming you're over 25, is:

CBT -> Motorcycle Theory Test -> MOD1 -> MOD2.

Pass all these and you can then ride anything you can afford to run and insure.

I'd advise lots of revision before the theory test. It's £31 a pop where I am, not cheap, and you don't want to waste time and money redoing it.


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PostPosted: 16:44 - 28 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

My school wouldn't let me book/start having lessons until I had passed or at least booked my theory.

So to answer your question, you need to pass your theory in order to take your tests (they'll ask to see your theory pass certifcate/document in the test centre) but you do not need to pass in order to do your training.

It's best to do your theory before your training so that you can have a few days/hours training immediatley before your mod 1, so it's all fresh in your mind without having to take a day off training in order to take your theory.
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 28 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure you book a motorbike theory, a mate of mine booked a car theory by mistake
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PostPosted: 20:11 - 28 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can also do your theory before your CBT. I did.
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PostPosted: 04:01 - 29 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just do the theory as soon as possible.


My personal opinion is that you shouldn't be allowed to be in control of a vehicle on the road until you have passed theory (i.e. can't drive or ride as a learner until you do so) but I don't make the rules.


Certainly it will be beneficial to you, 95% of the theory test is necessary knowledge, the other 5% seems to be EU eco-babble bullshit about why electric trams are good and stuff like that.


If you already have passed the theory test and know the highway code then you don't have to consciously think what does each road sign mean when you see them.
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PostPosted: 04:21 - 29 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the info guys Thumbs Up theory booked for 16th sep Very Happy

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PostPosted: 10:14 - 29 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'd advise on theory before cbt if you're new to the road, that way at least you'll have some tested knowledge prepared before getting out on the road
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PostPosted: 10:28 - 29 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

rideslikeanob wrote:

CBT -> Motorcycle Theory Test -> MOD1 -> MOD2.


Not necessarily
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PostPosted: 10:30 - 29 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

grr666 wrote:
You can also do your theory before your CBT. I did.
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I took this route as well. Theory is cheap and easy. Get it out the way and you don't need to worry about it
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PostPosted: 10:40 - 29 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do the theory and then book DAS. I'm not aware of any schools that will take a DAS which includes a theory test. That you do yourself, the bike school can then book your tests and DAS will fit around the test dates.
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PostPosted: 11:23 - 29 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Am I right in saying that the only time you don't need to take the theory test is going from an A2 to an A licence?
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 29 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pig Hog wrote:
Am I right in saying that the only time you don't need to take the theory test is going from an A2 to an A licence?


If you are taking the test early because you have become old enough rather than after the 2 years, then you need to re-do the theory I believe.

If you have done the 2 years, then you don't.

I'm sure that's right.
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PostPosted: 11:52 - 29 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh right. Well mine will coincide anyway but wanted confirmation because the .gov site can be so vague!
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PostPosted: 11:53 - 29 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh right. Well mine will coincide anyway but wanted confirmation because the .gov site can be so vague!
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PostPosted: 12:08 - 29 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Northern Monkey wrote:

I took this route as well. Theory is cheap and easy. Get it out the way and you don't need to worry about it

My thoughts entirely.
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PostPosted: 12:12 - 29 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did my motorcycle theory aged 16 as it is the same test between the moped full license and motorcycle full license.

Allowed me to pass my test 3 weeks after turning 17, like a bawws
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PostPosted: 12:42 - 29 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

PhilDawson8270 wrote:
Pig Hog wrote:
Am I right in saying that the only time you don't need to take the theory test is going from an A2 to an A licence?


If you are taking the test early because you have become old enough rather than after the 2 years, then you need to re-do the theory I believe.

If you have done the 2 years, then you don't.

I'm sure that's right.


Cos that makes a lot of sense... make the ones who passed more recently redo the theory.

I know why though, its because they're essentially taking the A2 test as if they're new to riding, rather than upgrading to A2 from a lower category. Not an ideal system they've put in place but thats the EU meddling for you.
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 30 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you do the theory test its valid for 2 years anyway so you could do it when you want and save for a DAS course if thats the case, then your not putting a little pressure on passing quick if you are keen to book a DAS course (retest if fail can take weeks to rebook)
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 30 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

MC wrote:
So it's implied whilst not actually stated, that you need to complete the progressive access period to avoid the need for another theory test.

Sadly, that is actually what the legislation says. Brick Wall

However, the theory that you must have passed to get your A2 remains valid for 2 years. So in practice it's only a problem if you want to do A in the period that's more than 2 years after your theory pass, but less than 2 years after your A2 pass.

And no, I don't see any practical purpose to needing an almanac and a slide rule to work this out. How is it keeping anyone safer?
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PostPosted: 11:44 - 31 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still find the whole thing confusing - common sense tells me that you should have to pass the theory test before being allowed to take control of a vehicle on the road, but the official DSA and DVLA sites say you only need to pass the theory test before taking the practical test - you don't need it before or after CBT, and you don't need it to book a practical test - only immediately prior to taking the practical test!

It's not even clear if you need a theory test pass before you do Mod 1, because if you follow the hyperlink for 'practical test' it defines it as a test of your ability to ride safely on the road - nothing about weaving in and out of cones off-road.

I believe some riding schools insist on a theory test pass before lessons on a bigger bike (or a DAS course) because it is a requirement of their insurers.

So if anyone has done DAS, Mod 1 or Mod 2 recently, at what point did you have to prove your theory pass?
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