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KingKong
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PostPosted: 07:31 - 17 Sep 2014    Post subject: Should I Fill Police Questionnaire? Reply with quote

Hi

Was T-boned a few weeks back and thirt party insurance accepted liability. However, police sent me a form 966 requesting I fill it out in order to assist them with their 'investigation' to determine if reckless/dangerous driving had taken place, and to prosecute if so.

Is it a legal requirement to fill this form and return it? What are the implications if I don't complete it?
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PostPosted: 07:42 - 17 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've done a bit of a google and it seems it's a collision reporting form (makes sense). I'd guess there are no consequences to you for not filling it in, but they third party will get off scott free. I guess it depends whether you were in the wrong in any way in the incident. If you were totally innocent and blameless then I'd just fill it in and be done with it personally.
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PostPosted: 07:44 - 17 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm in a similar situation at the moment

except i haven't given my statement to the police or even spoke to the officers involved

i haven't got a form to fill yet either
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PostPosted: 08:32 - 17 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men don't fill in their paperwork.
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PostPosted: 09:55 - 17 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

MC wrote:
...the police...had sent it to the wrong address...they said as none of the witnesses had responded, they weren't taking any further action anyway.

Not surprised they didn't respond as I would suspect yours not only paperwork sent to wrong address.

I'd put in a complaint. That'll result in them having a good telling off. That'll teach 'em.
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PostPosted: 11:09 - 17 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it's a standard questionnaire that the police will send out if they're investigating any offences. It sounds like the other party was at fault, and the police are considering prosecuting them.

It's up to you whether you fill it in or not. You're not obliged to and there are no real consequences for not doing so. They'll probably chase you a few times for it, that's the most that's likely to happen. But I'd recommend filling it in. Poor driving needs dealing with, and you're the one with the evidence. The next person the driver T-bones might not be so lucky.
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PostPosted: 11:16 - 17 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

A year ago, I might have considered filling it in.

Now I wouldn't.

I do not trust the police further than I could throw them. Which given current crispy creme sales figures, is not very far at all. There is as much chance of them persuing you for a prosecution as there is the other party if you seem like an easier target.

All the police want to do is tick a box saying action has been taken and the outstanding report is put to bed. If it means giving you a ticket for a minor traffic law infraction, they can and will do that.

If the insurance is all caught up, I would give the police no more more information that I am required to by statute.

So that would be your name and address and to confirm the identity of the driver at the time they have requested information on.

Of course it is entirely up to you if you want to take part in their investigation. I personally would take my insurance money and leave.
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PostPosted: 12:09 - 17 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men don't fill in their paperwork.


and all that's needed to further the Police state is that all the sheep fill in paperwork without question.
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PostPosted: 12:23 - 17 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

wr6133 wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men don't fill in their paperwork.

and all that's needed to further the Police state is that all the sheep fill in paperwork without question.

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It's almost certainly a waste of time, but why not enjoy it? Anything that you believe is true is fair game to report as fact.

They even give you a pre-paid envelope, might as well get your tax money's worth.
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 17 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks all.

I would fill in but I may be prosecuted as might have been a lil fast leading to the crash.

The driver who pulled out on me was at fault for not seeing or waiting for me. But seeing how badly shaken up he was afterwards I'd say he's learned his lesson. I don't think it's necessary or fair to have him prosecuted.

If it was the lady who knocked me off 2 years ago then I'd beg the judge to imprison her as she was rude and very aggressive. Mind, her insurance told her to shut up and conceded liability the same day!

Basically, I want to be protected from being a vessel for a ticked box; plus the driver doesn't deserve a harsh reprimand as his experience has shaken him enough. Although, there is a section that asks which action I would like taken so I can always opt for 'warning letter'...
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PostPosted: 15:16 - 17 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it is contributory to your means then do so.
I had my push bike stolen and went through the whole uhgg procedure. Then found it and reported it, guy was arrested on the spot, made to court and he got what was rightfully his a juicy fine, a criminal record and community service. Constable was sad most people don't go through the paperwork and that impedes their job too.
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PostPosted: 16:58 - 17 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

KingKong wrote:
I would fill in but I may be prosecuted as might have been a lil fast leading to the crash. [and more stuff]

I'm sure you weren't, but I'd shred it and not speak to them voluntarily. Shhh!
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PostPosted: 18:02 - 17 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

With my case back in May the officer attending seemed disinterested, the focus of the force has shifted from upholding the law to cost-effectiveness and customer service.

As in my situation where despite the other driver clearly driving without due care and attention (not SMIDSY as he admitted that he did not even look right when pulling out) the officer had no intention of prosecuting on the basis that I did not have any obvious broken bones, now had I been doing 55mph through the 50 zone around Middlesbrough I could see a much different approach Rolling Eyes

So in regards to the OP I wouldn't waste my time, the police can fine you for wasting theirs wish the opposite was true.
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PostPosted: 08:26 - 18 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its up to you if you make the report out or not, what makes me chuckle about this thread is peoples attitudes towards co-operating with the police and 'making their job as hard as possible'. Why???

Next time someone gets knocked off their bike and the perpetrator gets away with it because a witness couldn't be bothered to make a statement - everyone here will be up in arms.

Likewise if someone's bike gets nicked and again a witness turns a blind eye to the crime, everyone on BCF will be ranting.

You cant have it both ways...
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PostPosted: 08:50 - 18 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

MattEMulsion wrote:
Its up to you if you make the report out or not, what makes me chuckle about this thread is peoples attitudes towards co-operating with the police and 'making their job as hard as possible'. Why???

Next time someone gets knocked off their bike and the perpetrator gets away with it because a witness couldn't be bothered to make a statement - everyone here will be up in arms.

Likewise if someone's bike gets nicked and again a witness turns a blind eye to the crime, everyone on BCF will be ranting.

You cant have it both ways...


They have brought it upon themselves.

The police owe me two prosecutions for stolen motorcycles (or even the names of the perpetrators, which they didn't even bother taking for one of them), a C90 rolling chassis which they had "recovered" from within 80 yards of my house, umpteen unecessary stops where they failed MY attitude test (which happens at the point they call me "Oi you!" or similar) and the revocation of an official caution for a breach of the peace they gave my Dad* because they were too scared to go and talk to the person who had just assaulted him.

That's going to take a while.

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* He was dragged over a fence by the collar of his shirt in a dispute over access to a beach in Scotland (you have a legal right of access to ALL beaches in Scotland other than MOD property), spat on and called a "Fucking English bastard". He, on my and a local JPs advice, reported the incident to the police as a racially aggrivated assault.

The police came to interview him and asked him to sign a page in their notebook. He flipped back a few pages to find they were asking him to sign a pre-written statement describing him and the other guy having a fight in the middle of the road and admitting to acting in a disorderly manner. He refused to sign it. They took the hump and told him he could either accept an official caution for breach of the peace or be taken to court over it.

He later found out they hadn't even interviewed the other guy who has a history of acts of violence and has even intimidated the council planning and access officers to the point they wont enforce the legal right of access to the beach that was the subject of the original dispute.

As a result of that incident, I have exactly no time at all for the police.
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PostPosted: 09:09 - 18 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

MattEMulsion wrote:
Its up to you if you make the report out or not, what makes me chuckle about this thread is peoples attitudes towards co-operating with the police and 'making their job as hard as possible'. Why???

Next time someone gets knocked off their bike and the perpetrator gets away with it because a witness couldn't be bothered to make a statement - everyone here will be up in arms.

Likewise if someone's bike gets nicked and again a witness turns a blind eye to the crime, everyone on BCF will be ranting.

You cant have it both ways...


This^^.

Personally, if I was the innocent party in a RTA it would be in my interest to assist the police.

If I gave the impression that I couldn't be bothered, then I'd expect the same reaction in kind.
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PostPosted: 10:32 - 18 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

DJP wrote:
if I was the innocent party in a RTA it would be in my interest to assist the police.

Innocent of what?
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PostPosted: 10:49 - 18 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:

I was always led to believe that respect is earned. It is not a right, it is a privilege. It can also be revoked, it isn't a permanent entitlement.

You can show understanding, compassion, empathy, acceptance, etc. but that's not quite the same.
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