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One handed for no good reason on a bike or in a car is as said CU80 territory Mobile phones, sat nav's, food and drinks in cars have all been shown to be "no good reason" ! ____________________ Dave
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I'm baffled as to how anyone gets convicted of CU80 when they can just point at the Highway Bleedin' Code and say "Is that 'not in control' then?"
"good reason" does not form part of the law, you're either in control with one hand or you're not.
Usual advice applies if stopped: either say nothing at all (if you don't trust yourself to not cave in and blub), or flatly, firmly and absolutely deny the accusation. "Balderdash" is a sadly under-used word.  ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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| dandelion wrote: | If you do it yourself on a section of your journeys, perhaps you can explain this: WHY? |
If this question is to me, the answer really is comfort. I don't need to hold on with both while I'm cruising at such a low speed, in a straight line, where visibility is extended so I can plan ahead even further.
Same question would apply in the car. Most people I've ever known drive with one hand on the wheel.
| Rogerborg wrote: | I'm baffled as to how anyone gets convicted of CU80 when they can just point at the Highway Bleedin' Code and say "Is that 'not in control' then?"
"good reason" does not form part of the law, you're either in control with one hand or you're not.
Usual advice applies if stopped: either say nothing at all (if you don't trust yourself to not cave in and blub), or flatly, firmly and absolutely deny the accusation. "Balderdash" is a sadly under-used word. Wink |
This has formed essentially the crux of my questioning. I would be absolutely furious to be told I wasn't in control of my bike in such circumstances. The worry is the interpretation. Plod's word against mine is a situation that always worries me - as much as I respect the work they do, and the police in general, I'm all too aware of the problem minority that think themselves important above their station.
I'd hope that as long as I'm riding in a safe and sensible manner, one handed or two, would be the only really important factor. |
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What about no hands? Riding a bike that's going faster than 10mph with no hands is dead easy, the centrifugal forces keep it upright, I do this occaisonally (only for a second or 2) when adjusting my jacket, or when slowing down into a 30 zone (god bless engine braking ) to have a stretch - if you passed a copper doing this would it be a pull, even if you were riding along completely in control for the 2 or 3 seconds both hands were off the bars? ____________________ 00 Honda VFR800 | 09 Aprilia Tuono Factory
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I have seen a couple of one armed bikers on TV recently, and there's a company that modifies bikes for one disabled riders.
Whether or not riding with one arm (when you have two perfectly good ones) constitutes an offence would be determined by whether or not you have 'proper control' of the bike.
There are many circumstances that should exempt you from committing an offence, such as giving a lawful hand signal, clearing a visor, operating a choke control, relieving cramp, etc. but probably not waving to your mates, expressing your opinions of other people's driving ability, or having a wank (it was that, wasn't it!).
What is meant by 'proper control' would possibly depend on other circumstances, (and what you were doing with the other arm at the time), but in the event of a disagreement between you and plod, the courts would decide. ____________________ Honda Varadero XL125(V8)
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| TallPaul_S wrote: | What about no hands? Riding a bike that's going faster than 10mph with no hands is dead easy, the centrifugal forces keep it upright, I do this occaisonally (only for a second or 2) when adjusting my jacket, or when slowing down into a 30 zone (god bless engine braking  ) to have a stretch - if you passed a copper doing this would it be a pull, even if you were riding along completely in control for the 2 or 3 seconds both hands were off the bars? |
Pffft, a second or two, fanny!
I've gotten all the way through the Dartford tunnel no handed in the past, that includes the bend in the middle, and the uphill out of the tunnel section.
I think in the eyes of the law it would be well and truly not in control though. Good luck swerving out of the way of the innocent kitten that appears in your path. Kitten Murderer!
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I often ride with one hand on a long run. When I started biking my hands used to cramp with gripping the bars too tight and I would take one off at a time to rest it. There are also numerous occasions when I need to put my visor up/down or lower my sun visor and thought control just won't do it.  |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 11 years, 275 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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