Lorries overtaking on dual carriage ways?

[mikesaa309]

What do you guys make of lorries overtaking on dual carriageways? It's frustrating on a dual carriageway stuck behind a que of about ten cars doing 56 mph because a lorry driver decides to overtake another lorry going 1 mph slower. Then have to wait for car drivers to figure out how to accelerate again.

I don't have much issues with lorry drivers most of them are fairly respectable to bikers and in some ways I can understand why they overtake with the pressure on getting to their destination on time but surely there has to be a point where if you can't go faster than 5-10 mph then just don't over take? At one point I was stuck behind a que of traffic because of a lorry overtaking for about 3 miles.

[deadwolf]

The die was cast when he opted to try and overtake the other lorry. What else is he gonna do once he's made the move? Slow down even further to pull back in behind the lorry he was trying to overtake? And causing the queue behind him to slow down even more and get more aggravated? If the other lorry isn't going to change speed, he'll just have to inch his way forward until he can pull out of the overtaking lane.

In hindsight of course it was a silly move, but who among us have never thrown sense to the wind and tried to pull a maneuvre that turned sour? The driver probably thought he could make it only to find the situation conspiring against him when he actually began to overtake.

In any case take it as yet another lesson learnt; you may have picked up some cues about lorry behaviour that can be applied in future situations
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[Old Git Racing]

you drive a lorry on the limiter, all are set slightly differently. If you come up to another truck doing 2 mph less than you, you pass him if you can because its hard keeping it 2 mph below the limiter and if no one passed all trucks would be doing the speed of the lowest set limiter.
So driving behind a truck for 3 miles at 56 ish as opposed to 70 lost you how much time? A couple of minutes?
Just have a bit of patience, driving for a living is pretty hard.

OGR
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[monkeybiker]

It is frustrating. If they are going a few mph faster then O.K but sometimes it's not even 1mph faster. I've had it when they take 10 minutes to overtake

[weasley]

I face this every day on the A34 north of the M4. It is 2 lanes, quite undulating and a busy trade route from the Midlands to south coast ports.

I deal with it. It is annoying but it is what I am faced with, so I wait my turn and get past when it's time.

The truck drivers are at the mercy of the route too - this stretch, for example, is in desperate need of a third lane but it's not the truck drivers' fault that the road network is overloaded.

I guess your need to get somewhere is more important than theirs, right?
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[lihp]

2mph slower than another lorry when driving hundreds of miles is a lot of lost time.
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[J0Al1]

There is so much 'stress' on the roads, just let it wash or it only effects you.

I get why they do it and really don't care. Plus, I've driven loaded horse lorrys and trailers with a bike so know what its like to overtake but still have speed restrictions.

Let go, lorry drivers are on the whole amongst the best drivers on the roads.

[Andy_Pagin]

[dodsi]

I literally cannot think of any example where it has /actually/ taken a lorry anywhere near 10 mins to overtake another. usually about 30 seconds in reality.

This is not to say that it is not annoying when it's constant (A1 after the M18 for instance) and you end up driving the road at Lorry speed or less due to the over braking of less skilled motorists around you.

What is more annoying is when you get two lorries overtaking each other on a 3 lane carriageway and Bert and Ethel pull out to go around the lorry at 62.14159265359 mph causing the same carnage then once the overtake is complete from the lorries they carry on, on the outside lane for a further 3 miles.

Or when they are traveling so slow that a lorry has to overtake the car.

These are the real villians on the road, not the Lorry driverists.

[Rogerborg]

[thepuma]

I got stuck behind one doing it the other day...after 5 or 6 minutes of them being side by side and at exactly the same speed, there was a massive queue forming behind.....he eventually abandonned the overtake and got behind the lorry he tried to overtake.

Pointless..
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I pass the time by playing the game of guessing how many miles it'll take them to overtake or give up and pull back in. Coming out of Dover, I've seen 2.6 miles before pulling back in and giving up.

The overtaking is not the worst problem. The A20 from Folkestone to Dover it littered with bottles of piss where the foreign, left hand drive lorries lob their full bottles out of the window before getting on the ferry. That, alongside the muppets drifting across lanes as they either fiddle with the telly on the dash or take a bottle piss, are far worse problems.

I would make a stab in the dark here and say that most motorways accidents on the M20 involve a foreign HGV.
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[Kris]

Used to encounter this on the M26 sometimes. Parts are pretty flat so lorry speeds can be similar, leading to long drawn out overtakes.

I usually resorted to going through the middle.
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[Tungtvann]

They actually have restrictions on trucks overtaking at certain times of the day on the continent, I guessing they think it's a problem too.

[bikertomm]

Pretty much what OGR said.

Yes, it's frustrating, but I don't let it bother me.

They probably want to have their foot flat down on the accelerator as it's more comfortable than having to put it up and go slower.


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[Irn-Bru]

The vans at work are limited to 56 so I end up like a lorry wanker overtaking at a snails pace, usually I sit behind them and wait for a hill then drop a gear and go for it
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[Ratty]

Don't forget how much tax is paid by the lorry fleets to use the road, I'm as frustrated as anyone else, chugging along while in a cage, but lorries aren't a problem when riding the bike, these guys have to make their living, and passing a slower lorry can make a hell of a difference to their travel time...
My beef with truckers is--- When they pull out to pass, and assume the right to cut into the lane your already in, without signaling before maneuvering...

THEN I think the're chunts

[monkeybiker]

[sniff6]

You were lucky as the speed limit for duel carriage ways is 50mph.

Its all to do with who's lightest.But the law is about to change soon so lorries will be able to go a little faster.About time too.

G is absolutely right 10 minutes does make a difference.The difference between having your 45min break on time or an infringement.
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