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 Mirey Two Stroke Sniffer
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 Posted: 18:31 - 02 Nov 2014 Post subject: First fall |
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I had my first fall today. Wasn't bad, and not really too sure what happened. I was just going round a roundabout - not too sharp or fast.
Some really cool sparks came off the exhaust cover (YBR 125), and the hand brake bar is bent quite a bit - I'll try bending it back, else I'll have to buy a replacement I guess.
Fortunately, there seemed to be no damage to anything - not even my jeans. I do have a bump on my leg where the jeans have a little rivet thing.
A lady stopped to, and a guy with a Harley jumper came and asked if I was alright. Nice to know some people will stop.
I think I need to replace my back tyre, it's slid out a number of times now. I'm just trying not to as it took me a while to get my front wheel inflated after changing it.
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 Posted: 19:34 - 02 Nov 2014 Post subject: |
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Welcome to the club, I guess.  ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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 FlightRisk Spanner Monkey

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 Posted: 19:49 - 02 Nov 2014 Post subject: |
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I think I remember from my CBT being warned that roundabouts attract diesel. I know I had an interesting little slide about when I booted it down off one driving a cage the other week.
Least you're ok.
I would just buy a new lever, metal doesn't really like being bent backwards and forwards too much, it could get brittle. Clutch I might risk it but you don't want your brake lever to snap. (I'd cheerfully bend one to get home though.) Not expensive are they?
What's this rear tyre of yours? Decent brand? Got tread on it?
Were you braking or on the power or what? ____________________ Honda CB500S |
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 Posted: 21:27 - 02 Nov 2014 Post subject: |
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Urgh, roundabouts.
Slow, upright, try and stay in the vehicle tracks.
Is this a newish YBR? We have had several folk bawww about the OEM tyres. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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 Mirey Two Stroke Sniffer
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 Posted: 22:09 - 02 Nov 2014 Post subject: Re: First fall |
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| Celt500 wrote: |
I would just buy a new lever, metal doesn't really like being bent backwards and forwards too much, it could get brittle. Clutch I might risk it but you don't want your brake lever to snap. (I'd cheerfully bend one to get home though.) Not expensive are they? |
I suppose you're right. There's an after market one for £5, or the OEM one for £10. Not a huge amount, and will save me the hassle of trying to bend it back.
| Pigeon wrote: |
Seriously!
Not the most convincing reason to not change a tyre. Particularly a plastic Chingshen jobby that's good for 2k miles of dry weather only (assuming OEM).
£35-£45 a tyre for Metzeler / Michelin and you'll me much happier and safer. |
Yep. I actually bought a rear tyre the same time I bought the front, I just haven't fitted it yet. Metzeler ME22s
| Celt500 wrote: | That said, what tyres are they and how much tread do you have left?
EDIT: Also, what tyre pressures are you using?
Could have just been oil / diesel and you were unlucky. Often you can smell it and sometimes see it though. |
It seems to have a decent amount of tread left. I'm not sure what make it is - I did look but I've forgotten. It's not OEM. It's a 2009 model. On one of the MOTs (not the last one) it said it had an advisory for the rear tyre, which was gone by the next MOT.
It had done just over 3k when I got it. It's done 5k now.
25 PSI upfront, and 41 PSI at back. The sticker on the side of the bike says below 100kg to use 25/25 (or close to), and 25/41 for 100kg+. I weight 95kg, so with close + top box figured it'd be at 100kg.
I filled the tyres up afterwards and it was at 24/33. |
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 Posted: 22:47 - 02 Nov 2014 Post subject: |
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5k miles and you may find the tread in the middle of the tyre is significantly less than the outside.
ie a quick visual check in the morning and you might think there is loads of tread left, but it's all on the last 10mm either side of the edge.
41psi might be a touch high.
During the summer I went 26/39, during winter it was 25/35. With topbox + 16st 6ft1 lard arse.
The ME22's are great tyres, good fun in summer, and very useful when we had the floods.  |
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 Mirey Two Stroke Sniffer
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 Posted: 22:54 - 02 Nov 2014 Post subject: |
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| Pigeon wrote: |
ie a quick visual check in the morning and you might think there is loads of tread left, but it's all on the last 10mm either side of the edge. |
Yeah, it does seem a little "square", but I'm not sure if I'm seeing it like that because I want to see it like that... I do have a depth gauge so I'll properly measure it tomorrow.
| Pigeon wrote: |
The ME22's are great tyres, good fun in summer, and very useful when we had the floods.  |
Yeah. When I stuck the front tyre on it was a noticeable difference. I have wondered if the back wheel being a little "slidy" is only exacerbated by the front tyre being so grippy.
| Paddy. wrote: | On little tiddlers, I find 30/30 the be adequate, did on the KH, CBR and Varadero. Only increased rear to 34 for pillions. Try those pressures. |
Thanks, I'll give it a go.
EDIT: missed this:
| Celt500 wrote: | Were you braking or on the power or what? |
If the roundabout was a clock, I started at 12 and wanted to get to 9. I was at 6 and it wasn't a huge roundabout, so I had just begun to put power back on. Can't really remember when I fell off, it happened pretty quickly. |
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 Ame Nova Slayer
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 Posted: 19:33 - 04 Nov 2014 Post subject: |
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if that lever [surprising!] didnt snap then,straightening it now might just do for it.
Id change it because if it doesnt after straightening,it could possibly do so as you ride,at a really inconvenient time
Take care mate,good to see you are good and that people came to help  |
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 Mirey Two Stroke Sniffer
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 Posted: 20:14 - 06 Nov 2014 Post subject: |
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Yeah, new handle came today. Only cost £5. I have just noticed there is black marks near the screw whole - should I put some grease there on the new handle? (I just pulled this one out and put in the new one)
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 Posted: 20:24 - 06 Nov 2014 Post subject: |
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I bought my first bike yesterday, fell today the reason being that I was a complete idiot and left the steering lock on.
Landed chest first and in quite a bit of pain now. Despite looking like a complete fool I want to warn any new bikers out there; remember to unlock the steering lock.
I must admit that suddenly biking seems a lot less fun, that asphalt is very hard!  |
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 Posted: 20:37 - 06 Nov 2014 Post subject: |
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[quote="Janza"]I bought my first bike yesterday, fell today the reason being that I was a complete idiot and left the steering lock on.
Landed chest first and in quite a bit of pain now. Despite looking like a complete fool I want to warn any new bikers out there; remember to unlock the steering lock.
I must admit that suddenly biking seems a lot less fun, that asphalt is very hard! [/quote]
Dont give up mate,all it is is a learning curve.You wont do that again for sure!
And dont forget,best thing is to climb right back on board,or asap if you injured badly.
I think everyone must of come off in their early days! Me?I did something even more daft,like snatching at the bloody front brake in CBT...  |
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 Posted: 00:21 - 08 Nov 2014 Post subject: Re: First fall |
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| Mirey wrote: | and a guy with a Harley jumper came and asked if I was alright. |
not a real Harley rider. Harley riders do not stop for non Harley riders.
I jest, of course. on my 125, i done the same as Paddy and stuck at 30/30. done me well, only slide was on a massive diesel patch.
take it easy on roundabouts (and the roads in general, i guess), especially in this weather. there's going to be a combination of crap over them, diesel, gravel, leaves, and it won't be long before the gritters are out too.
get out on the bike asap though, don't let it put you off  ____________________ Current: Kawasaki ZL600 Eliminator
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 11 years, 240 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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