Rusting frame, MOT

[natefz6]

Hi all,

My dependable Gs500 has developed what can be described as a hole in its frame its located in the link between the two pieces of the right hand lower frame and the left hand main bit. Its on the rear side just above where the exhausts go in to the engine and is about 1-2cm big.

This bit, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/98-Suzuki-GS500-GS-500-LOWER-RIGHT-FRAME-RAIL-/191047015678?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2c7b4a1cfe

Now I am replacing this beast in the near future but unfortunately I use this work horse for the daily commute and its MOT is coming up in November. Is this something it will fail for? and am I putting my life in danger riding it? I have the money for a new bike but just need to find the time to go out and buy one! I don't really want to pour money in to this one needlessly

All of the examples of this part available on ebay seem to be from the US or as part of a whole frame. Has anyone replaced this part? I am guessing its an engine out thing?

Advice much appreciated.
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[Itchy]

Safe method, get a welder to weld a plate over it.

Old skool non safety nazi BCF method, wrap some tape around it and enjoy the bliss of ignorance.
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[Itchy]

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[SQL]

I was riding on a broken swingarm spindle for a few weeks

https://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/151/628/kitty-says-fuck-the-police-4921.gif

[P.addy]

Would cover for MOT.

Is it just the frame rail itself or actually part of the frame. A GS500 is likely to be sitting in a scrappy somewhere with the right parts

[RhynoCZ]

https://www.ebay.de/itm/501-SUZUKI-GS-500-E-GM51B-Rahmen-Motorhalter-/231014313563?pt=DE_Motorradteile&hash=item35c986ae5b

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Motorhalter-Rahmen-Unterzug-Suzuki-GS500E-GM51B-Bj-90-/251435427125?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item3a8ab82535

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Suzuki-GS-500-E-GM51B-Bj-93-Rahmen-Unterzug-/161224750527?pt=DE_Motorradteile&hash=item2589be75bf

Und so fort...
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[natefz6]

Danke schoen! I had not thought of looking closer to home, eBay only suggested US sellers.

So if I cover it I should be fine for the MOT?

In that case I will cover it and hammerite the shit out of it for now and order one from eBay.de to fit when it gets here.

Thanks again
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"no I didn't steal it that's just the way I ride"

[G]

They're not supposed to remove anything, so a bit of tape around it etc should be fine for the MOT.

I should have one for sale, but it's 250 miles away and not sure when I'll next be back there, so probably best to just order one from the above .

[natefz6]

It's the bit that crosses between the two parts of the frame. So the back if the horizontal bit above the pipes at the front of the engine in this picture https://wiki.gstwins.com/uploads/Upgrades/sliders_naked.jpg

The engine is still bolted in so it's not like it's going to fall off, and I am not Evel Kenevel.
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[natefz6]

I got around to replacing the offending part this weekend...

https://www.coolioso.org/junk/image2sm.jpg

oops a bit worse than I originally thought, ordered a new bit off fleebay and this is how it looks now.

https://www.coolioso.org/junk/image1sm.jpg

Just need to give it a clean and a new tyre and I should be good for the MOT as long as they don't notice the twisted sub frame and the slack chain .
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[Vincent]

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That's pretty fucking rusted mate.

I take it that the majority of that wear comes from from where road grime flicks up from the front wheel?

How about wrapping your new shiny one so it lasts a bit longer, although it must have taken a fair few years to get that bad?

[natefz6]

Its a 11 year old bike and the only time its been inside is in the showroom, but yeah it was much worse than I thought it was. Once I took it off I poked at it and it crumbled...

There is lots of crap all over the front of the wheel and the exhaust bolts look more like rusty nails .There are two drainage holes just where the rust started, I guess they fill with crud and keep the moisture in and it rots.
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[MarJay]

a few points:

Looks like a good job you replaced it.

You're lucky it's a bolt in-bolt-out rail and not part of the frame

That hole is so big your engine could have fallen out when riding!
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[MarJay]

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[natefz6]

[_Iain_]

I'd genuinely have carried on riding that & taped over it for MOT.

When I found rust on my GS500 frame I just ground the worst of it off & painted over it. From what I gather it would take some serious forces to break a steel frame, and given the performance of a GS500 it's hardly going to be getting massively stressed. Worst that could happen would be the bottom two tubes bending outwards, but you'd have to snap both the bottom engine mounts to do as such anyway. Frames rot really badly on GS500's from what I gather, paint was a bit thin at the factory.

My old GS diddn't have a front engine mount. I got the engine very cheaply as it was snapped - It diddn't kill me & the guy I sold it to is still riding it with what appears to be my engine in it (still has the black engine generator on the silver motor)

Edit;

https://i1148.photobucket.com/albums/o574/_Iain_/4B16D224-3FD5-44CF-9DCA-636A4494A86E-4420-0000067DD871D3A0.jpg

https://i1148.photobucket.com/albums/o574/_Iain_/6F11EDBD-955E-48E6-9FB5-54896D6A03A9-5163-000007B8E7B44062.jpg

Note missing front mount in pic no.1 & engine mount bolt exposed in pic no.2?
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