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RhynoCZ
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PostPosted: 14:53 - 11 Dec 2014    Post subject: Linux, this one's for you Teme... Reply with quote

Today, I tried to boot up the Debian and all I got was that: the ''BootMGR'' was missing and all I could do was restart the PC with alt+ctrl+del.
Is there a way how to get this sorted out? I'm burning Debian image onto a CD as we speak. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 11 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to Google, that's a Windows error... Is it a dual boot system? Are you using GRUB, LILO or some other boot manager?
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PostPosted: 15:09 - 11 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do have Windows and Debian in one PC, but each system have its own hard drive. Thinking
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PostPosted: 15:12 - 11 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:
each system have its own hard drive. Thinking


BIOS will be telling your computer to boot from either one or the other hard drive which has the MBR on?

Do you go into BIOS to change the booting operating system?
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PostPosted: 15:16 - 11 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, I just press F8 key at the start up screen and that gives me the option to choose which drive to boot up. Worked for ages, now this.
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PostPosted: 15:20 - 11 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:
Nope, I just press F8 key at the start up screen and that gives me the option to choose which drive to boot up.


You are telling BIOS which drive to boot by doing that. My first troubleshooting test would be to shutdown -> unplug Windows hard drive completely -> try boot from Debian.

If it fails to boot I'd suggest reinstalling GRUB/LILO or what other boot manager you have installed.

Afraid I only have one laptop with Windows on which dual boots and it's a very old laptop running Windows 7 so I can't help with the Windows element of the situation.
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PostPosted: 15:27 - 11 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did as you said, and it works. I'm still not sure why it wouldn't let me boot the linux up using the F8 key as always.

Anyway, thank you, Sir. Smile
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 11 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I tried to update the OS, and got this:

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E: Error https://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates/main libapt-pkg4.12 amd64 0.9.7.9+deb7u5
404 Not Found [IP: 212.211.132.250 80]


I think I let Teme down and ruined the OS again. Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 11 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have any internet access on that machine?
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PostPosted: 15:59 - 11 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I do. I'm in the Debian right now. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:51 - 11 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

So your windows install shit itself and this is therefore a linux problem?
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PostPosted: 16:53 - 11 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

What did you fuck with Rhyno?

If you say *i did nothing* you are an utter total bald faced liar and I will no longer talk to you.

If you have windows vista, 7 or 8 some of the updates delete GRUB and fuck up the bootloaders by trying to go back to bootmgr. Windows will try and install the bootloader on a random drive and as far as i know there is no easy way to stop it.

TL:DR uninstall windows if you want a multiboot system that is reliable.
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 11 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list?

Also: https://serverfault.com/questions/636343/apt-fails-to-get-sources-due-compression
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PostPosted: 20:19 - 11 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Teme, all I did, was that I tried to boot it up after 3 months or so. Confused
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 11 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:
Well Teme, all I did, was that I tried to boot it up after 3 months or so. Confused


So you had not turned the machine on in three months?
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PostPosted: 20:38 - 11 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used the PC for Windows, I had to get some work done. You know far too well how fragile a linux based system can be when I, specifically, need it to do stuff. Smile
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 11 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:
I used the PC for Windows, I had to get some work done. You know far too well how fragile a linux based system can be when I, specifically, need it to do stuff. Smile


The windows update was backported from 7 and 8 applied to vista and has ruined the bootloader. Good luck.

Like WD says you need to sort out GRUB.
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PostPosted: 23:36 - 11 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or get rid of Grub and use Gummiboot if you're using a different hard drive for each OS.
Also Debian, fragile Razz Surprised Very Happy
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PostPosted: 16:32 - 12 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

boot the live disk and run boot-repair (should be in apt)
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PostPosted: 18:21 - 12 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:
...how fragile a linux based system can be...

You really do talk some shit, you know that?
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PostPosted: 20:22 - 12 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

nowhere.elysium wrote:
RhynoCZ wrote:
...how fragile a linux based system can be...

You really do talk some shit, you know that?


Maybe he's logged in as the root user all the time? Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:25 - 12 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

A question.

Is there a point to dual booting now its so easy to run Virtual Machines?
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 12 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on the hardware running the VM.

It takes less resources to run a single operating system then it does to run an O/S, then the VM client, then another O/S within it.
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 12 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
Is there a point to dual booting now its so easy to run Virtual Machines?


Really depends what you want from the Virtual Machine. Gaming takes so much resources you'd struggle to run them in a VM reasonably.
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PostPosted: 02:12 - 13 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

b422063 wrote:
sickpup wrote:
Is there a point to dual booting now its so easy to run Virtual Machines?


Really depends what you want from the Virtual Machine. Gaming takes so much resources you'd struggle to run them in a VM reasonably.


Gaming for me, otherwise I'd be happy to bin Windows.
Currently as both by admin and user profiles have been corrupted for some reason and none of the windows recovery options want to work including reading a DVD or USB for repair, binning it may happen sooner rather than later Neutral
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