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| Fladdem |
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 Posted: 18:55 - 18 Dec 2014 Post subject: DVLA Gon' Rape Me! |
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Just found a letter saying I am being fined £80 for not taxing my pit bike.
What I think has happened, is I bought it when the tax was running out, so they sent the reminder to the previous owner, the V5 was then processed and so I never got a tax reminder.
The letter was sent out on the 23rd of October. I found it just now in a pile of junk mail, unopened. They gave me a deadline of 18/12/2014 to pay the fine. That's today. It says it gets seized if not paid.
Another thing is that I can't do it online because it's some random chinky bike on the logbook, not recognised anywhere.
Anyone with some legal knowledge help! ____________________ Current:1991 Honda MT50 (Soon to be a H100/MTX/MT5 hybrid), 1976 Honda Cub C70, 2005 Honda Varadero 125, 1993 Yamaha TTR250 Open Enduro , 2010 Road Legal Stomp YX140, 1994 Honda CRM 250 MK III, 1999 Cagiva Mito 125, 1992 Honda CB400 Super Four, Stomp T4 230, 1984 Honda H100s, 2009 Sym XS125K
Past:2003 Aprilia RS125, 1982 Kawasaki GPZ550(FREE BIKE!)
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They should understand the doc ref no, my car isn't recognised anywhere but HPI and doc ref.
Try doing SORN instead to bail you out for a sec.  |
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 Posted: 19:36 - 18 Dec 2014 Post subject: Re: DVLA Gon' Rape Me! |
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| Fladdem wrote: | Just found a letter saying I am being fined £80 for not taxing my pit bike.
What I think has happened, is I bought it when the tax was running out, so they sent the reminder to the previous owner, the V5 was then processed and so I never got a tax reminder.
The letter was sent out on the 23rd of October. I found it just now in a pile of junk mail, unopened. They gave me a deadline of 18/12/2014 to pay the fine. That's today. It says it gets seized if not paid.
Another thing is that I can't do it online because it's some random chinky bike on the logbook, not recognised anywhere.
Anyone with some legal knowledge help! |
Eh ? Why can't you do it online ? ____________________ "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." Hunter S Thompson
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 Posted: 19:38 - 18 Dec 2014 Post subject: |
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Just went to sorn it, it says the last tax/sorn expired on 01/07/2014 but the letter says 31/08/2014.
Something is definitely up with this, I didn't sorn it online in the end because I want to keep that as evidence. There has to be something there to argue. I just spoke to my mate, he insists he sorn'd it before selling it to me.
I may have to ring them up tomorrow.
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Eh ? Why can't you do it online ? |
I fucked up, I can if I want to ____________________ Current:1991 Honda MT50 (Soon to be a H100/MTX/MT5 hybrid), 1976 Honda Cub C70, 2005 Honda Varadero 125, 1993 Yamaha TTR250 Open Enduro , 2010 Road Legal Stomp YX140, 1994 Honda CRM 250 MK III, 1999 Cagiva Mito 125, 1992 Honda CB400 Super Four, Stomp T4 230, 1984 Honda H100s, 2009 Sym XS125K
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Beaten to it.
How very co-incidentally convenient that you just happened to open the demand on the last day before action, eh.
Just SORN it now then await further developments. For the love of Hannigan, don't contact them.
DVLA collections NSL won't give a stuff about your "yehbut, Daz sed den deze dates is well bogus" story. Vehicle Excise Duty isn't fair, there's no contract, and the whole purpose of it is to rinse us for money.
If you want to tell them a tale, you can do it when the court summons hits the mat. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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| Rogerborg wrote: | Beaten to it.
How very co-incidentally convenient that you just happened to open the demand on the last day before action, eh.
Just SORN it now then await further developments. For the love of Hannigan, don't contact them.
DVLA collections NSL won't give a stuff about your "yehbut, Daz sed den deze dates is well bogus" story. Vehicle Excise Duty isn't fair, there's no contract, and the whole purpose of it is to rinse us for money.
If you want to tell them a tale, you can do it when the court summons hits the mat. |
I know, it seems weird how stuff like this happens to me quite regularly. They, like you, would automatically call bullshit on my story.
I did read on t'internet about another story where the bloke went to court, I can't deal with that. I may just have to chalk this down to experience and bear it in mind when I buy another sorn'd vehicle.
I'll sorn it and pray the fine goes away? Terrible idea? ____________________ Current:1991 Honda MT50 (Soon to be a H100/MTX/MT5 hybrid), 1976 Honda Cub C70, 2005 Honda Varadero 125, 1993 Yamaha TTR250 Open Enduro , 2010 Road Legal Stomp YX140, 1994 Honda CRM 250 MK III, 1999 Cagiva Mito 125, 1992 Honda CB400 Super Four, Stomp T4 230, 1984 Honda H100s, 2009 Sym XS125K
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Phone the the dvla up and explain the situation to them.there not that bad  ____________________ "Nitrous is like a cheap hooker, you want to hit it but are scared of the consequences |
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| Fladdem wrote: | I'll sorn it and pray the fine goes away? |
Yes, SORN it! Do it naow, get to the choppa, etc.
You haven't been 'fined'. You have a blackmail demand. It might get passed to their collections goons (NSL now rather than Capita) as a 'debt'. It's not, ignore it.
We have had folk say that they've been refused further VED until they clear the 'debt', but that's not an issue if you only use it offroad.
Don't sweat it, they only chase up a minority of 'offenders', and they seem to spend most of their time humping Paddy's leg anyway.  ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Sorn'd it last night. I caught my mum ringing the DVLA this morning explaining what happened. They dropped the charge to £40.
I still reckon I should have ignored it after sorning it. But I had no say in the matter and my mum reckons we should do the right thing, wrong thing, we're just teaching them that this is acceptable behaviour!  ____________________ Current:1991 Honda MT50 (Soon to be a H100/MTX/MT5 hybrid), 1976 Honda Cub C70, 2005 Honda Varadero 125, 1993 Yamaha TTR250 Open Enduro , 2010 Road Legal Stomp YX140, 1994 Honda CRM 250 MK III, 1999 Cagiva Mito 125, 1992 Honda CB400 Super Four, Stomp T4 230, 1984 Honda H100s, 2009 Sym XS125K
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How did your mother even know?
Eh, never mind. That was a bad move as they'll now have you marked as a soft touch.
I would continue to ignore it (and have done) until and unless a court summons hits the mat. You can keep negotiating all the way up to the courtroom door. A prosecution (for not having VED or SORN which it sound like mumsie has just admitted by proxy) won't put a penny in their coffers, which is all they care about. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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I tried to explain to her my problem and she took it upon herself to deal with it. I had already been speaking with my dad, he told me not to let them get anything! He agreed that no contact should be made, it should just be sorn'd and ignored. I can't see them trying to take me to court over £80.
Do you reckon they've got a list of all the pushovers on a wall somewhere? All the people that ignore their letters aren't there and so never get anymore letters off them. ____________________ Current:1991 Honda MT50 (Soon to be a H100/MTX/MT5 hybrid), 1976 Honda Cub C70, 2005 Honda Varadero 125, 1993 Yamaha TTR250 Open Enduro , 2010 Road Legal Stomp YX140, 1994 Honda CRM 250 MK III, 1999 Cagiva Mito 125, 1992 Honda CB400 Super Four, Stomp T4 230, 1984 Honda H100s, 2009 Sym XS125K
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Can't say. I've never contacted them about their threats and have never been prosecuted.
Paddy's on first name terms with his personal prosecutor by now.
If I'd been involved in developing their system then at some point I would have suggested that priority be given to mugging victims who had made contact. I'd then shower, but I'd never be clean.
Mugging those who have tried to do the right thing isn't fair, but that's not the point of VED. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 11 years, 157 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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