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UrbanRacer
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PostPosted: 15:45 - 26 Dec 2014    Post subject: Remote killswitch Reply with quote

Hi, looking for some advice.

A friend has bought there kid a 50cc dirt bike, the problem is that the kid is fearless on it. First time on it and he pinned the throttle and f*cked off into the distance. the 2nd time he did the same but was proper close to having serious accident. He has all the right gear but still he'd have been hurt badly.
Anyway, i was asked if i knew of a way to restrict the bike power wise, i'm sure there is but i'm not sure if that's the best way of dealing with this.
The kid needs some guidance for sure but i think having a fail safe of something like a remote kill switch for the bike would make everyone feel better until he has some more experience.

Is anyone aware of something like a remote kill switch for a bike, is it possible? anyone used one? what sort of distance can you get before its out of range.

Thanks for any help.
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PostPosted: 16:24 - 26 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

100 meters of rope
One end round his neck, the other to a spike in the ground.
that'll learn him.....
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PostPosted: 16:44 - 26 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Wireless-Remote-Kill-Switch-Pocket-Rocket-Generator-mini-motor-bike-dirt-road-/141502081314?pt=AU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20f22e6922
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PostPosted: 16:45 - 26 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

WD Forte wrote:
100 meters of rope
One end round his neck, the other to a spike in the ground.
that'll learn him.....


He will end up just going round and round till he gets to the middle. Bit like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nyXlitXQ3U


OP. Loosen the throttle cable so it does not give full throttle at the carb or a screw to stop the twist grip going fully round.
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PostPosted: 16:47 - 26 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

nashgt wrote:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Wireless-Remote-Kill-Switch-Pocket-Rocket-Generator-mini-motor-bike-dirt-road-/141502081314?pt=AU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20f22e6922


Oz customers only and up to 100 meters but now the OP knows such a thing exists.
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PostPosted: 17:17 - 26 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair play didn't read much into it Embarassed
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PostPosted: 17:34 - 26 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kill switch is a dumb idea. Kill the power and drop him right into a turn, yeah great.

There are numerous ways to restrict the power output. A throttle stop, intake restrictor, exhaust restrictor washer etc.
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PostPosted: 20:03 - 26 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bet my money, on a accidental usage of the remote kill switch while you're on the bike, resulting in a bad accident. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 26 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

restricting the power wont stop him from running straight into a tree or wall, i also doubt very much he's going to be dropping the bike into hard turns before he starts learning how to use the throttle properly.

The killswitch would only be used while he learns to ride.
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 26 Dec 2014    Post subject: Re: Remote killswitch Reply with quote

Liam_ wrote:
the kid is fearless on it...close to having serious accident
Sounds like it'll be a self-solving problem to me.
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PostPosted: 10:27 - 27 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

How old is the kid?

I got my first bike around eight years old. And it was turned down by the throttle cable. And if I weren't riding it safely my parents wouldn't let me out on it the next weekend or so.

Also, I wouldn't really let the kid ride on his own, can the father fit on the back of the bike or is it something along the lines of a PW50?
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PostPosted: 13:31 - 27 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have 5 and 6year olds at our track

They all listen to there dads telling them what to do and were to ride

If this kid can't do that he shouldn't be riding imo
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PostPosted: 15:39 - 27 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

andyscooter wrote:
We have 5 and 6year olds at our track

They all listen to there dads telling them what to do and were to ride

If this kid can't do that he shouldn't be riding imo


100% agreed.

A good bollocking/coaching followed by taking the bike away if he lad continues to act up, should suffice
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PostPosted: 05:35 - 28 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

remote killswitches are indeed dangerous

Some kids bikes have an adjustable throttle stop, and such restriction can easily be bodged together. Be careful with loose throttle cable, may cause throttle to jam or cable to unhook from one end, could be dangerous.

Best way to educate child that throttle is not an on off switch is to give them a tight course to navigate that is impossible at full throttle.

perhaps the question is not "what does one buy for child" but "how does one coach/manage/parent said child". I suspect there will not be a satisfactory solution given that child appears to have been given dirt bike and all the trimmings for Christmas without adequate thought given to what to do with dirtbike equipped child.
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PostPosted: 15:30 - 28 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

talkToTheHat wrote:
remote killswitches are indeed dangerous

Some kids bikes have an adjustable throttle stop, and such restriction can easily be bodged together. Be careful with loose throttle cable, may cause throttle to jam or cable to unhook from one end, could be dangerous.

Best way to educate child that throttle is not an on off switch is to give them a tight course to navigate that is impossible at full throttle.

perhaps the question is not "what does one buy for child" but "how does one coach/manage/parent said child". I suspect there will not be a satisfactory solution given that child appears to have been given dirt bike and all the trimmings for Christmas without adequate thought given to what to do with dirtbike equipped child.


Likely to be a case of too little too late for both parent and child.. hard to go back four five years to reading bed-time stories, so it learns to 'listen' instead of plonking it in front of the TV; working through such activities as baking biscuits, so it learns to follow instructions, rather than handing it a Dee-Ess to try and get the high score at making Peppa-Pig-Pancakes;

That said.. my beginnings in powered two wheel perambulation, at age 9, was when emptying the garage so my Grandad could weld up a Hilman Imp for its MOT, and standing wide eyed playing with the twist-grip of my mums old MOT fail Moped, my uncle 'Joked'.. "If y'c'n fix-it, Y'c'n 'av it!"...... So I did... within the hour.... think, 'by accident'.. ripped all the wiring off it.. and it started!

I recall very embarrassed and worried Uncle running around the orchard, flapping his arms like a chicken trying to get run over, very amused Grandad stood on the lawn laughing, and eventually my Mum took charge; flagged me down and told me to wear her old helmet.... I seem to recall my Uncle stammering something about "The Trees" to which my mother replied, "Oh! They'll be OK, they aren't in in sap yet!" .. then after a little more stammering from Uncle "Oh! Well! He can only hit ONE at a time... they'll slow him down.... wont they?" But then, when I was a kid they still put lead in paint.

If the kids on private ground inaccessible to Joe public... only harm he can do is to himself... he'll learn.... if not? Well, RTA applies and fairly sure plod will sooner or later take an interest doling out an S59 and sizing the bike, and alleviating all of the 'problem'.
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PostPosted: 15:22 - 29 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

A slice of blue water pipe above the throttle valve will make a pretty effective throttle stop on most bikes.

Is it an automatic with a CVT? Could also be restricted at the transmission if it is to cut both acceleration and top speed.
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