Cam chain tensioner. .Honda

[mysterious_rider]

Hi, my 1994 cb1000 has a slight rattle from cold for a few mins. I was thinking about changing the cam tensioner. It's just a bolt off and bolt a new one on right?
Help appreciated Cheers!
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[bradh511]

Hi do You have any pic of the tenshioner? Some are self adjusting some manual usually the tenshioner are held in by two bolts its basically a sprung loaded arm that pushes on a cam chain guide... Might be worth checking its not seized and that its not the adjustable type mke sure u have some gasket glue or a new gasket
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[Copycat73]

not sure if relevant but
me 1992 cbr600 had a gasket modification for this sort of problem.. the tensioner wanted cleanin out .. I used petrol... the new gasket had bigger holes which allowed more oil through..
20mins job.
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[haroman666]

If you do go for the manual replacement then the APE product from the US is generally the best to go for.
Other people do their own but as far as reputation goes, APE is the one.

It's pretty much remove and replace but its the fine tuning that is key.
I did mine too tight initially. It's fine now though.
Use Youtube and APE's website to read through the correct procedure.

Always turn the engine over by hand first after fitting. Dont wanna be bending any valves now
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[mysterious_rider]

cheers guys.

https://www.davidsilverspares.com/graphics/parts/14500MZ1000OE_1_large.jpg


this is what keeps cropping up for my bike. I haven't checked the bike for the correct part yet though, I'll probably order a genuine honda part I think.

I'd like an auto one to be fair.

From doing the shims on the zzr I remember the tensioner just bolting on, dont need to TDC or anything like that. Pretty much plug and play.


Cheers.
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[serlant]

correct, I researched the same thing for my cbr1000 as with my vtr100 (vtwin) I had to set each cylinder at TDC before i could remove the tensioner to stop the timing jumping, but on inline 4's the rest of the valve springs hold the cams where they are in they're strokes.
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[Casper]

Have a look on Wemoto

https://www.wemoto.com/

You may get a kit at fraction of the price. The springs inside don't last forever.

[mysterious_rider]

Nothing on wemoto.

Again, going by the confusing picture, do you lot reckon its a bolt on jobby?

It's priced at 125-145 at david silver spares. So not cheap..
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[Casper]

It is like no tensioner I have seen before mate and that looks internal to me. Even looking at pictures of the bike I cant see where that goes. It may drop into place and you have some sort of external plunger to adjust but god knows. CMSNL have it €142 work that out to the pound as it may be cheaper but no doubt there will be postage from Holland.

https://www.cmsnl.com/honda-cb1000f-1993-northern-europekph_model1373/partslist/E__0400.html#results


What does your manual say about that tensioner.

[fatjames]

I've just bought a manual one for my cbr600f, as the auto ones are notorious for sticking. It's a bolt on job, and as said before, you need to fine tune it once in place. Only takes about half an hour.

https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA2NlgxNjAw/z/M~kAAOSwcu5UPpri/$_35.JPG

[bradh511]

The one you have pictured look internal ... One above manual type look like the one I was expecting .. Might be worth digging out your Haines manual
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[mysterious_rider]

Well I decided to drop the oil, and it came out brown.... Really bad colour.

It had been laid up for two years, I changed the oil and filter, castrol 10-40 oil I think, I did 700 miles on it and dropped it... And it was disgusting.

Filled up with cheap oil 5-30w because its thinner on cold starts, and i tell you what, It's basically silent now.

I don't need a cam tensioner now, however I think its internal too I couldnt see anything outside behind the cylinders. Going to buy a haynes manual.

Cheers lads.
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