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TheArchitect
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PostPosted: 12:55 - 06 Jan 2015    Post subject: Insurance Payout Woes -Update Page 3 Reply with quote

Background:
I crashed without fault. Bike's written off. Offered Payment without Prejudice.
Despite payment being offered, TP insurance keep insisting on giving me bike back as salvage despite me rejecting that offer and telling them over and over again I want full cash settlement only.

Question:
Do I have to accept bike as salvage or am I within my rights to demand full cash settlement? Reason being salvage will be more of an inconvenience to me than anything else and I don't have the time/money to fix and/or sell on.
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PostPosted: 13:00 - 06 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

No you don't have to accept it as salvage, in some cases is a good idea if you can fix it on the cheap and flog on/continue to use it.

It would seem that TP insurance wants to give you the bike so that they can reduce the payout
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PostPosted: 13:03 - 06 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

inb4 paddy offers tree fiddy.
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PostPosted: 13:08 - 06 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Accept bike as salvage for massively reduced price, using the fact you don't want it to barter them down, then sell on to somebody on here for a small profit.
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PostPosted: 13:10 - 06 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

dydey90 wrote:
Accept bike as salvage for massively reduced price, using the fact you don't want it to barter them down, then sell on to somebody Paddy on here for a small profit.


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PostPosted: 13:28 - 06 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't need to accept it at all, tell them to Go Hop.
Alternatively a 250r (that's thesame?) went on EBay ( item 181617965858) as a write off recently for £500 plus. That looked very second hand.
What're they offering you? What's the damage - cosmetic only or something more substantial? Where you live - do you the space to break it yourself? Can you be bothered?

If they're only after knocking a couple of hundred pounds off the settlement for it then there's a few on here who who would possibly refund you that - Paddy, me (although as you're in London possibly not me!!!)...
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PostPosted: 13:37 - 06 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm taking a guess that OP was knocked off by a car.

The car insurance company deals with somebody who buys their salvage but won't take bikes?
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PostPosted: 13:39 - 06 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

1198 wrote:

What're they offering you?

£750 for salvage

1198 wrote:

What's the damage

Purely cosmetic, a few scratches here and there, most are t-cut jobs.

1198 wrote:
Where you live - do you the space to break it yourself? Can you be bothered?

North London, and no, no drive/garage or access to off-street parking so having a non-roadworthy bike will be a massive inconvenience for me. And even if I did have the space I don't have the time or patience to break it myself.
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PostPosted: 13:40 - 06 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

lihp wrote:
I'm taking a guess that OP was knocked off by a car.


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PostPosted: 13:44 - 06 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

LondonCommuter wrote:

1198 wrote:

What's the damage

Purely cosmetic, a few scratches here and there, most are t-cut jobs.

1198 wrote:
Where you live - do you the space to break it yourself? Can you be bothered?

North London, and no, no drive/garage or access to off-street parking so having a non-roadworthy bike will be a massive inconvenience for me. And even if I did have the space I don't have the time or patience to break it myself.


If it's cosmetic then why is it not roadworthy?
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PostPosted: 13:49 - 06 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

bluezedd wrote:

If it's cosmetic then why is it not roadworthy?


Because it's an insurance write off, so I'd have to go out of my way to get it checked and MOT'd again.
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PostPosted: 13:55 - 06 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

LondonCommuter wrote:
bluezedd wrote:

If it's cosmetic then why is it not roadworthy?


Because it's an insurance write off, so I'd have to go out of my way to get it checked and MOT'd again.


Is it Cat C or Cat D? Cat D's don't need checking before getting back on the road.
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PostPosted: 13:58 - 06 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

DieselASFC wrote:


Is it Cat C or Cat D? Cat D's don't need checking before getting back on the road.


Can't remember to be honest, letter's at home. Surely I'd have to MOT and insure it to be allowed to have it on the road either way?
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PostPosted: 13:58 - 06 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they reduce your payout by 750 by offering you salvage I'll make up that 750. You'll just need to give me till Feb Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:59 - 06 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

DieselASFC wrote:
Is it Cat C or Cat D? Cat D's don't need checking before getting back on the road.


Neither do any "Category ABCD" bikes.
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PostPosted: 14:02 - 06 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
If they reduce your payout by 750 by offering you salvage I'll make up that 750. You'll just need to give me till Feb Thumbs Up


That's a kind offer Paddy.. thanks Thumbs Up

I will keep it in mind, however I'm still going to push TP insurance for full payout which by the looks of it will drag into Feb anyway! If nothing comes about from them then it's yours.

I'll try get the inspection report so it's apparent what the actual damage is.
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PostPosted: 14:03 - 06 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

LondonCommuter wrote:
I'll try get the inspection report so it's apparent what the actual damage is.


Its a bike, or was, I care very little Thumbs Up

I could probably even source before that, just aiming to sort the car Neutral
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PostPosted: 14:30 - 06 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
DieselASFC wrote:
Is it Cat C or Cat D? Cat D's don't need checking before getting back on the road.


Neither do any "Category ABCD" bikes.


Interesting Thumbs Up . I didn't know that.
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PostPosted: 14:44 - 06 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has hire bike gone back as if yours is written off then you may get charged
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PostPosted: 14:55 - 06 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
inb4 paddy offers tree fiddy.

What, is there a sale on Loch Ness munchies or something?
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PostPosted: 15:10 - 06 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not 100% confident on the push-comes-to-shove situation here.

What they have to do is to make good your losses. If the bike is genuinely worth £750 as-is then you are (in principle) no worse off, on paper.

In practice, you've already got the hassle of replacing it, and now they're trying to palm off the hassle of disposing of it as well.

I wonder what the situation would be if you were to say "So, are you intending to indemnify the costs of me doing the selling, including my time?" Thinking
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PostPosted: 15:39 - 06 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

andyscooter wrote:
Has hire bike gone back as if yours is written off then you may get charged


Still have hire bike and that's covered for a week beyond the cheque being sent to me. I made sure that one was safe!

I rang my insurer again to give formal response to their proposal, as in I will not be accepting the bike back as salvage and expect full cash compensation for my losses. Caveat being they will ensure it is road legal when they deliver it as I have no off-street parking facilities.

At £45 a day for the hire bike I don't think TP insurance can afford to dither about too much longer.
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PostPosted: 15:56 - 06 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

LondonCommuter wrote:
At £45 a day for the hire bike I don't think TP insurance can afford to dither about too much longer.


I wouldn't be so sure. It's our premiums that will be paying it... ;p
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PostPosted: 16:38 - 06 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're trying it on / being lazy. Don't agree if you don't want to, tell them to bugger off if that suits you. If they insist on keep pushing you I'd start asking them who they are regulated by, and start making noises at them. You shouldn't be asked to take back a bike that's been written off - I know insurers give the option but never as an insistence!
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PostPosted: 16:50 - 06 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

1198 wrote:
They're trying it on / being lazy. Don't agree if you don't want to, tell them to bugger off if that suits you. If they insist on keep pushing you I'd start asking them who they are regulated by, and start making noises at them. You shouldn't be asked to take back a bike that's been written off - I know insurers give the option but never as an insistence!


Or start saying, "if you insist on me retaining the bike, I wouldn't value it more than £500 blah blah". "I'm not going to pay almost a grand for a bike I don't want, if you knock £300 off that will give me a payment for my time that will be used to move the bike on".
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