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PostPosted: 01:54 - 12 Jan 2015    Post subject: Winter gloves halp Reply with quote

My winter gloves are knackered, and I need a new pair. After my last pair being absolutely terrible and getting cold in the first 5 minutes even with my handlebar muffs on, I'm gonna need some suggestions from experience.

I know I can go on an online shop and browse through all their marketing jargon which contains the likes of "triple insulated ultra warm makes your hand feel like roast chicken". I know I could even go up the road to the local J&S and wear a pair to see how they feel, but none of that is going to actually prove that they stay warm when I'm actually riding with them on.

Soooo, suggest me bcf Mr. Green ta

Edit: Heated gloves cost too much and are a pain to fiddle with. Looking for regular gloves.
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PostPosted: 02:25 - 12 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have some IXS goretex ones more midseason than full on winter, warm enough with grip heaters, watrerproof, good feel. Everything I've had from IXS has lived up to expectations.

Some J&S branches have HG summit gloves on the shelves, sadly not in xl in Doncaster or Leeds.

I quite like xtrafit gloves, is some branded Gubbins that bonds insulation, liner and outer all toghether so gloves are not a baggy fall apart mess.
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PostPosted: 02:46 - 12 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've currently got 4 pairs of winter gloves, of which 2 share my title of "best winter gloves I've worn".

They're a Hein Gericke Touring Classic pair, and Alpinestars WR-V.
The AStars are warmer, drier and more comfortable inside, but more awkward to get on/off and bulky too.
The Hein Gericke are much easier to get on/off and adjust, but they are not quite as warm to start with, and a lot less now they're getting old and worn, and they also aren't amazingly waterproof.


Eventually though the hands will get cold with both gloves. The most effective preventions I found were heated grips, and keeping your core body warm.

Warm body = warm hands and feet. Extra layers under jacket and trousers will keep your core warm which in turn means warm blood is kept flowing round your body, rather than diverted away from extremities.
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PostPosted: 03:03 - 12 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers for some solid suggestions, will have a look into these.

Also about the core temp thing, when it's quite cold I layer up a lot and tend to be able to keep my body very warm. I've been told it's counter productive to pack layers on though apparently, sometimes I do end up feeling squished into my leathers with all the layers on underneath, it apparently constricts blood circulation somewhat but fuckit it feels warm XD

My winter rig typically goes vest, wooly top, hoodie, leather jacket with thermal liner, and if it's super cold I throw a t shirt under all that too. Face it goes Bandana, with balaclava around mouth/neck (at one point I had an actual wooly scarf on when shit got real). Never really do more than just leathers for the legs and they do get a bit chilly sometimes so I should probably switch to textiles with thermal liner but I haven't got around to that yet. Boots are always very warm.

So yeah just gloves now, the hunt goes on.
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PostPosted: 03:39 - 12 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thought about heated grips? I'm still wearing summer gloves.
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PostPosted: 03:51 - 12 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

b422063 wrote:
Thought about heated grips? I'm still wearing summer gloves.


I have thought about it, but aren't they just a lot of hassle?
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PostPosted: 06:29 - 12 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meef wrote:
I have thought about it, but aren't they just a lot of hassle?


For the first two hours, yes. Once fitted you'll wonder how you ever got by without them.
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PostPosted: 07:04 - 12 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much were you going to spend? For example, say it was £100, you could get heated grips and gloves for that, rather than spend £100 on gloves alone that won't be much better than the cheaper ones.

I'm still on summer gloves, the tips of my fingers get a slight chill but so far it's nothing to worry about lol Smile
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PostPosted: 07:15 - 12 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Am I the only person still wearing summer gloves? Laughing

Slightly cold by the time I reach work some mornings but it's been very mild down south.
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PostPosted: 07:49 - 12 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Supermoto_Fan wrote:
Am I the only person still wearing summer gloves? Laughing


See above Smile
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PostPosted: 08:22 - 12 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got heated under gloves and a pair of £30 waterproof gloves that go over them.

quicker and easier to fit to the bike (wiring harness for the gloves) but more faff each time you ride, but finger ends are kept warm better than I imagine grips would achieve
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PostPosted: 08:32 - 12 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 08:42 - 12 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DATATOOL-MOTORCYCLE-MOTORBIKE-THERMA-GRIP-HEATED-HAND-GRIPS-24-MONTH-WARRANTY-/230916821416?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item35c3b711a8

I quite fancy a set of these on the next bike. They look good, no control box
(as such) and have a feature to stop them being turned on when the engines not running.
They look tidier than the Oxford ones I was considering.
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PostPosted: 08:43 - 12 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use Knox zero2 outcry gloves they are a bit pricey but they are really warm and totally dry even when I've been riding for three hours in the rain, they also offer good protection
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PostPosted: 08:48 - 12 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Supermoto_Fan wrote:
Am I the only person still wearing summer gloves? Laughing

Slightly cold by the time I reach work some mornings but it's been very mild down south.

I may give my summer gloves another go. Under my muffs Sad
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PostPosted: 09:05 - 12 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's your budget?

https://www.motorcyclegear.com/image/path/54471/Held_Twin-1.jpg

Best solution is a set of Held Twin's and heated grips.

The twin pocket design means you get all the insulation on top of your hand, and a thinner glove underneath to allow you to feel the heat coming off the hotgrips easier. All goretex insulated too & propperly armoured unlike the more budget freindly Richa GTX.
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PostPosted: 09:12 - 12 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh504/wr6133/IMG_20150101_102814_zpsa994b073.jpg

Muffs, you can then wear summer gloves and laugh at all others with their fiddly heated grips and super expensive goretex gloves as they still get cold hands.

Though for short journeys I don't use them. Currently have a pair of Richa Summit which seem really good for a £30 glove, pretty warm, waterproof, handy wiper blade on finger. Did have to wear some thin gloves under them on Christmas day though in the Brecon Beacons.
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PostPosted: 09:24 - 12 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Knox coverts?
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PostPosted: 10:45 - 12 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a pair of silk gloves from one of those outdoor/camping/mountaineering type shops.

They weren't cheap, but they make a heck of a difference when worn under normal goretex gloves.
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PostPosted: 11:28 - 12 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rukka Goretex Lobster gloves, £100~

https://customlids.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/500x500/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/l/o/lobster.jpg

I've also got a set of Tucano Urbano muffs indoors which I still don't need to use even down to freezing.

I find these better than the old Hein Gerike lobster gloves which I use as spares as the Rukka ones are goretex and have a little visor wipe on the LH glove.

Don't need muffs, heated grips or inner gloves or any other thing apart from just the gloves Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:19 - 12 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

RedPanda wrote:
Supermoto_Fan wrote:
Am I the only person still wearing summer gloves? Laughing

Slightly cold by the time I reach work some mornings but it's been very mild down south.

I may give my summer gloves another go. Under my muffs Sad


Glove stalker too apparently - i also have these and whilst good, after 30 minutes in the cold ... your fingers still feel it.

Heated grips - good gloves and maybe a set of 'bark busters' to direct the flow of cold air away from your finger tips.
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PostPosted: 15:29 - 12 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got Muffs, and they help a lot, but my hands still get cold after 30+ minutes of >30mph riding.

Hmm okay so from what you guys are saying, heated gloves are the only way to get warmer than any regular glove.

Those lobster gloves look a bit like they'll interfere with the controls I must say.

I like the look of those Held Twins. Maybe I should go for heated grips o.O but I dunno which ones are good or what would fit my bike. I assume heated grips + muffs will mean the type of glove is less important, muffs should trap the heat from the grips right?

Or maybe I can lose the muffs if I get heated gloves, but I don't like the fact that being plugged into some gloves wouldn't give me the freedom to take my hands off the bars when I want to, and I'd rather not have a long wire flapping around.
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PostPosted: 15:30 - 12 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meef wrote:
I've got Muffs, and they help a lot, but my hands still get cold after 30+ minutes of >30mph riding.

Hmm okay so from what you guys are saying, heated gloves are the only way to get warmer than any regular glove.

Those lobster gloves look a bit like they'll interfere with the controls I must say.

I like the look of those Held Twins. Maybe I should go for heated grips o.O but I dunno which ones are good or what would fit my bike. I assume heated grips + muffs will mean the type of glove is less important, muffs should trap the heat from the grips right?

Or maybe I can lose the muffs if I get heated gloves, but I don't like the fact that being plugged into some gloves wouldn't give me the freedom to take my hands off the bars when I want to, and I'd rather not have a long wire flapping around.


They now do heated muffs. Smile
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 12 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hahaha ffs now I'm spoilt for choice. Nah, I've already got muffs, gonna take a look at heated grips and some gloves instead. Rather add to the arsenal than replace I reckon.
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PostPosted: 20:39 - 12 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

The joy of heated grips is when you are caught out in summery kit, they are still there. I like the feel of the current Oxford Touring grips, firm and rubbery, not smooth and hard like r&g heated grips. Not as nice as unheated progrips, but better than the stock grips on any of the bikes I've had.

Cheap sports base layers work well, just bought a stash of campari longsleeves in a sale at a sportshop I accidentally walked past. Close fitting enough to work well under leathers, look enough like a long sleeve to wear with a T-shirt, or will hide under a dress shirt.

Army green long green underwear also works well, but is harder to disguise.

I have a heated waistcoat thing, it's too bulky in my favourite kit, gets in the way of connecting zips, and is a pain to control.
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