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I had this problem too, I think I went to the post office and they couldn't do it either. I think the person behind the desk just said they use the same web system that we use!
I ended up sending off some form stating I'm the new owner, and that I want SORN. Got a letter back a few weeks later saying all was sorted.
Found the letter, V890: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/360126/V890_250714.pdf |
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Presumably they've 'streamlined' the system until it broke.  ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Might have to go down that route, useless sods won't allow me to do it there either, thanks new electronic system that doesn't work  |
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| Commuter_Tim wrote: | | Joncrete Cungle wrote: | When the big bad computer in Swansea said NO, I ended up writing to the DVLA instructing them to SORN one of my bikes forthwith. I kept a copy of the letter and the free proof of postage to troll them with when demands to pay a bribe began to hit the doormat. |
Did anything further happen? |
I too am interested...
Email I sent;
Subject : As your online SORN does not work...
...and you enforce us to do your bidding.
Owner, Patrick Newman
Address, Rock down to, Electric Avenue, Kent, ME1N NGA
Vehicle, Volvo C70
Registration, Y394VKX
Doc Ref, 5014 846 ****
I want to SORN, however due to recent changes (yes, partly you
enforcing tax be removed at time of transfer causing these issues, ta)
I am unable to do so.
Are you happy for me to invoice yourselves for the time I am wasting
AND the trip to town in my untaxed vehicle, just for the lulz, to
visit the post office and attempt to do this, then get rejected
because they can't do it then having to fill in the relevant V890 form
to send to yourselves to get a refund on the tax that you are most
likely going to take regardless of me sending the letter or not.
In short, please sort out your useless system, refunding of tax is
more hassle than its worth and the person who passed that deserves to
be shot at close range with anything that fires a heavyweight
projectile.
Also, given that the law clearly states the below, I believe I am well within the law to request that you accept this as my written declaration of a SORN;
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1997/3025/regulation/2/made
Taking into account this;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_bug#Email_web_bugs
This should show when the mail was delivered and read, so acceptance as such. Embedded image is held locally so can retrieve access times if required.
You could kindly reply to confirm receipt of my SORN declaration, that
would be mega awesome sir.
Regards
Patrick "I paid my tax but my vehicle is now useless but you won't let
me tell you waaaaah" Newman.
I am probably out of line with some of that, likely gonna get me nowhere but was trololol none the less! Was sent to both parliament one and patrick.mcloughlin@dft.gsi.gov.uk |
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DVLA make me mad, especially after I renewed my photocard / replaced lost counterpart and it came back with 3 years less full motorcycle entitlement than I have had. Should be fun when the insurance cartel start demanding papers please before even giving a quote at some point in the future.  |
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| Paddy. wrote: | I loathe post offices, especially round here, queues of museum pieces paying for stamps because I can has no email.
Unfortunately I need to SORN my lovely blown engine on wheels but my gov.uk, he says no.
Apparently due to tax class or recent vehicle change etc. I bought it 12th December and have the V5 here so...
I've seen this before on here, can't remember the resolution! |
CBR250rr had same issue, not used for 14 years. They admitted on phone that they flag anything untaxed/not SORNed for a while. I made many attempts, told them on phone that the issue is now theirs. They sent me a form to be taken to post office (NOT posted), but I consider the amount of effort unreasonable and ignored it. To tax, same issue, but as I wanted to ride bike I went to postoffice, was a surprisingly pleasant experience. I rode there untaxed  |
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i had no trouble
i must of broke it
sorry peeps  ____________________ gilera runner vxr200 (chavped)
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There is actually precedent for serving papers by electronic means, in the case of TFS~V~Fabio Massimo De Biase. See here. the court papers were served via facebook.
It is in my opinion an irrelevance whether the email is read, it has been 'served' regardless. There are various bits of case law to back up this opinion, they mostly concern fax machines running out of paper but the contracts were upheld.
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It most definitely has arrived...
| Quote: | xx Patrick Mcloughlin 2 mcloughlinp2@parliament.uk via emea01-db3-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com
5:09 PM (16 hours ago)
to me
This is an automatic acknowledgement so that you know I received your message.
If you are not a constituent and wish to contact the Department for Transport, please re-send your message to patrick.mcloughlin@dft.gsi.gov.uk
If you live in Derbyshire Dales and you have included your full postal address, I will read your message as soon as possible. If you have not included your name and address please re-send the entire e-mail including those details.
Thank you.
Patrick McLoughlin |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 10 years, 339 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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