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LaurenceR46
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PostPosted: 13:27 - 28 Jan 2015    Post subject: Unpowered garage battery charging Reply with quote

Hi all,

My garage has no mains power but I have plenty of larger leisure batteries I could use to keep my bike battery topped up over the winter - I could take these indoors once and a while to charge.

I am having trouble thinking of a way to safely keep the motorcycle battery topped up from these.

Am I right in thinking that I need a 12V input lead acid battery charger? Does anyone know where you can find them with a low standby power draw or if anyone has any better ideas.

I would like for the battery to remain in the bike and use fused leads to top-it-up with.

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PostPosted: 13:51 - 28 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Assuming your bike is there during the day I would go solar.
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 28 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just do what I do and bring the battery into the house.
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PostPosted: 14:30 - 28 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
Just do what I do and bring the battery into the house.


This ^^^

R6, battery under the seat? So simple and easy to remove, literally a couple of minutes work so why not?
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PostPosted: 14:35 - 28 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Solar is probably best for you - a leisure battery would just equalise it's voltage with the bike battery.

You can get bike chargers with a DC input, that have a separate mains adapter, but these usually need 16-18v going in to the charger.
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PostPosted: 14:47 - 28 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do it really efficiently by getting a cheap inverter to run off the leisure battery, then plug in a normal battery charger.

What could possibly go wrong?
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PostPosted: 15:15 - 28 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bike has an alarm system which I wish to remain armed (in addition to other garage alarms).

Pdg I did think of that I have an inverter but as you mentioned I'm not so sure about the efficiency of such a set-up plus the safety of use unsupervised(?).

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PostPosted: 15:38 - 28 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

A friend has one of these from Amazon and says that it works well

https://www.amazon.com/Sunforce-50032-Solar-Battery-Charger/dp/B0006JO0X8
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PostPosted: 17:02 - 28 Jan 2015    Post subject: Re: Unpowered garage battery charging Reply with quote

LaurenceR46 wrote:
My garage has no mains power
Just putting this out there, but is installing mains an option? Take away the money you'd spend on solar/other options, and it might cost you a couple hundred. Plus, fit the charging leads to the battery so you wouldn't have to keep taking the battery out.

If it's any help, this is what I did:

Drill hole in the exterior wall to route your cable. Dig up the garden to lay cable, get sparky to wire it up both ends and fit consumer unit etc. I got the cable for free, and it only cost £130 extra including consumer unit and sparky's labour.

just a thought, I find a plug socket very useful.
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PostPosted: 17:05 - 28 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would love to but the garage is in a block not located within cabling distance Sad. Thank you though
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PostPosted: 17:19 - 28 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get some sick solar going on.
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 28 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pikeys will nick the panels though, right?
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PostPosted: 19:57 - 28 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'd probably be ok to connect the two batteries directly.

You could get a battery to battery charger.

Or a balance charger as used for RC stuff etc - about £15 will get you one that will run off 12v and has all sorts of configuration options.

Or about £35 will get you a 20w solar panel and a 10a PWM charge controller. Can also use this on a leisure battery.
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PostPosted: 20:14 - 28 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could you not charge one in the house and have another attached.

Iirc my alarm meta 357? Lasted a whole winter without charging.
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PostPosted: 20:17 - 28 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had this problem previously. I would simply wheel the bike to the house and plug in a proper charger for a hour two, until the charger showed the battery was full.
(My preferred routine is actually to ride my bikes regularly - I was out on the 1198 at the weekend for instance. I don't like and don't leave a battery floating for days on end.)
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