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I carry colour photocopies (done with multifunction printer thing) clearly marked as a copy in case someone got super pedantic about forgery. I have a taped up plastic wallet that lives in each jacket with everything I should show if stopped/crashed. Been riding 3.5 years, used it maybe 6 times, 2 collisions and some minor plod botherance. It works well for passing the attitude test, particularly when stopped by a non-traffic copper trying to verify everything because you managed to lose the numberplate.
Insurance cert, CBT as required, mod 2 pass certificate whilst waiting for licence update, restriction certificate as required, counterpart, list of numbers to phone (RAC, insurance, she who will kick my ass if I do something stupid, friend with van/trailer/some kind of intimidating posse)
I could and do keep all of these in my phone. I smashed my phone in the first of those crashes, so paper backup always handy. ____________________ Bandit. does. everything. |
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I should point out a techincality because some things are being stated as fact in this thread that are not accurate.
It is a criminal offence under the Road Traffic Act 1988 to fail to produce your driving licence or certificate of motor insurance when requested to do so by a police officer in uniform.
Just so as you know.
There is a statuatory defence to this offence of producing it within 7 days or as soon as was reasonably practicable.
Naturally, if you have produced it later in such a fashion, the police are unlikely to prosecute you for said offence (knowing you have a defence) but you still broke thew law by failing to produce.
Your provisional motorcycle licence is invalid unless accompanied by a CBT certificate. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles. |
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| pdg wrote: | The cynic in me says that police patrols have targets for the amount of 'paperworks' issued per shift.
A 'producer' is 1 paperwork, but checking your documents at the side of the road isn't...
From experience, if you hand over all your documents when stopped, it's likely that there will be a 'look over' happening so that the '1 paperwork' can be issued for something else instead. After all, they've already stopped you. |
Nah. They use it as a tool purely to cause you incovenience.
In the vast majority of stops, they will have done a PNC check before they even stopped you so they already KNOW who you are, what sort of licence you have and if you're insured. If they thought you had no licence or insurance, they would confiscate your bike on the spot and let you go no further.
A "producer" is merely a tool to punish you* for being in posession of a face they don't like the look of when they can't find something to actually do you for.
There has been no actual need for a copper to see your licence and insurance documents for a very long time now. The only time you should really need to be able to produce them is if the PNC or insurance database is in error and says you don't have them. In which case, you'd better have them on you because then it's seized vehicle time.
*By making you go to a police station to produce them then deliberately keeing you waiting. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 10 years, 329 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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