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no idea, know nothing about Chinese bikes, however I was toying with the idea of a honda XL250 or similar for a second bike, so this might be ny choice
https://www.chinesemotorcycledealers.co.uk/superimg/XF250GY.png
probably horrible though ____________________ R1250RS
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I'd strongly avoid the arrow entirely and go with the ZSX based on the fact that despite it's cheap price point and overall cheaper to insure the arrow comes with a wide range of issues even when purchased brand new, build quality mainly, the gearbox as well is a huge pain and can often getting stuck in neutrals and hitting false neutrals when attempting to go from 1st to 2nd gear.
The arrow is also a lot slower on paper than the ZSX and from experience I can say that the arrow is dog slow (common is a 17t upgrade to increase speed, don't get a 16T only makes things worse if anything), breaking in period on the arrow is also a huge pain, gearbox did nothing but play up and only got 30mph at a push.
However I'd strongly advise getting the bike form a dealerships close to home so that in the event the bike breaks down you can push it there, not use a van like I have to.
I've never ridden the ZSX however it has always appealed to me if I where to change 125's it really depends what you're after form the bike, the ZSX has a nice few features over the arrow.. digital dash (partly), can install the XTRS lextek exhaust system, fancy-ish styling, SOHC engine over SOHV, seat storage.
I'd also advise getting at least TPFT with the ZSX as it looks similar to the keeyway RKV and that style of bike is a popular choice amongst joyriders/t-leafs, the nicer it looks the more they want it.
I've had experience with the arrow including a complete loss of power and breakdown suddenly without warning(a simple clean and re-connecting all wires solved it).
Go with the "safer" option and get something that's been recently made and looks a little nicer, you'll soon get bored of the arrow believe me, it's a no brainer IMO depending on your budget.
Also note with the pulse listed below it's also a popular joy ride and burn machine so ensure a decent TPFT cover, pulse and lexmoto are the same company operating under llexter (to my knowledge). |
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 Posted: 17:56 - 05 Feb 2015 Post subject: Re: If the only option was a brand new chinese bike |
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| MC900 wrote: | Some dealer recommended the lexmoto zsx to me and even said its better than my YBR, i felt insulted tbh ;p. |
You mean your Chongqing Jianshe Yamaha Motor Company Ltd. JS125-6? They might be right.
Or they might not, so (if we're talking 125s) I'd agree with going for the cheapest bike available, as being the lowest risk.
However, I'd go for the Vixen over the Arrow, because:
1) I had one, and it was fine. I'd have another.
2) The Arrow seems to be slower. I mean, 55mph slow, confirmed by owners, with a sprocket cover that precludes going up a couple of teeth on the front.
If we're talking larger bikes, I'm not sure I'd have any. I'd certainly only buy based on ready parts availability, which means Lexmoto/Pulse, but I don't think I'd have the Adrenaline 250 based on the riding position (I didn't enjoy a DR125SM).
Sinnis, maybe the Retrostar 250. Maybe,
https://www.sinnismotorcycles.com/images/bike_area_images/28/16/right.jpg
WK, no thanks. I think their venture into 650s was ill judged and they'll just quietly drop them and chalk it up to experience. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike
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The Adrenaline's not too bad, as it happens. I had one, and aside from the comedy suspension, they're quite robust, and are high enough to give a bit of an advantage when looking through/over traffic. They also feel a bit more 'big bike' in terms of the chassis size, although the engine response soon puts paid to that  ____________________ '10 SV650SF, '83 GS650GT (it lives!), Questionable DIY dash project, 3D Printer project, Lasercutter project |
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| wr6133 wrote: | | ScaredyCat wrote: | Quite like the look of those Mash ones that have been floating about here...
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After the thread on that I went to a place near me that sells them looking for a test ride. No test rides allowed, they wouldn't even let me sit on it! |
Huh, that's a new low. Even the local 10-brand dealer allowed me to sit on their Precious Bikes of the Shop, although the concept of "test ride" was alien to them.
Fine for flogging £1K starter bikes to starry eyed 17 year olds clutching their piggy banks, but they need to sort their attitudes out if they want to sell to buyers who have a choice. Did not seem to understand that someone rocking up on a newish BMW wasn't going to be impressed by 'affordable finance' or a gratis £30 helmet and Oxfam Oxford chain. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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I'd stick to lexmoto over sinnis, no experience of sinnis but if we're talking chinese then to me it's the ready available parts with a cheap price tag that makes them appealing.
Sinnis don't offer parts to be sold to riders via their ebay page, CPMO or their website where as pulse and lexmoto do therefore a dealership is the only way to get parts.
With all the mentioned above websites (not sure about CPMO) offering next day delivery if ordered before 3PM I know witch one appeals more to me.
Also whatever bike you get do purchase from a dealership and not learnerlegal, stray you away from that adventure
Also lexmoto released their n̶e̶w̶ lexmoto adrenaline, few upgrades over the pulse so if a pulse looks appealing then look out the lexmoto adrenaline, although it's b̶r̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶n̶e̶w̶ and would be surprised if there are any owners to provide an actual opinion. |
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Yeah the old xbr lump. Kinda. No matter how good (or bad!) it was though, I'd have to sand that stupid name off the tank. I mean ffs. ____________________ "Life is a sexually transmitted disease and the mortality rate is one hundred percent."
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Brand new Chinese bike as my only option? Right now?
I'd.................give up riding. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 11 years, 243 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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