2nd hand cams?

[0l0dom0l0]

For shits and giggles I'm looking at dropping some R6 cams into my FZ6.

Got some bloke on another forum saying that I need new buckets as the cams and buckets work harden as a pair.

Never heard of this before.

What's the cack with using second hand cams and mixing and matching this stuff?? Anyone ever had any issues?
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[davebike]

I would not worry about the buckets

You will need to re shim
You may need a power commander and dyno runs different cams will mess up the fueling but it may still be in range of the closed loop
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[Matt B]

Just wondering what you want to achieve by doing this?
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[stinkwheel]

Once upon a time it might have caused some problems but Japanese build tolerances are now so good you can even buy a single cam cap*. I doubt there would be any need to replace buckets.

I'd suggest if your cam lobes/buckets are wearing appreciably, you have bigger problems.

I swapped out the cams on my VFR for a set of second hand ones of a different spec model four years apart and had to buy TWO new shims (out of 16).

I wonder if what he was meaning/heard was you should ordinarily try to keep the same bucket and shim in the same place on the head if you want to avoid having to re-jiggle the shims every time you have the head off due to small variations in thickness? You'll have to re-shim it anyway if you're swapping out the cams (or maybe not if you're lucky?)

*It used to be that they were through-drilled in place on the head and if you cracked a cam cap, your whole head was scrap. Now they are well enough made you can just replace one.
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[0l0dom0l0]

That's fine he sounds like he's a bit old fashioned. I think he was referring to the days when he used to race American V8's lol.

Got a power commander and only doing it as a hopefully cheap and effective mod to get a few more Hp.

Thanks for the replies!
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[MarJay]

Is your Fazer the Ally framed one, or the steel framed one?
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[Carvel]

It says 'FZ6' in the first post.

Big giveaway.
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[0l0dom0l0]

Sorry guys not updated my sig for ages.

It's for a 2006 S1 FZ6.
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