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PostPosted: 09:47 - 06 Feb 2015    Post subject: FZ6 S1 vs S2 Reply with quote

What's the difference between an S1 and S2? My local Yamaha dealer has an S2 and although they apparently look identical they're utterly separate bikes. (Also could be sales bollocks).

Searching I find lots of foreign sites talking about them but I can't work out what they're saying. Laughing
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Matt B
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PostPosted: 11:40 - 06 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check the Yamaha website it has a Fazer history. Basically it's this:

2007 Upgraded model named “S2” features:
• Diamond shape aluminium swingarm
• Monobloc, 4-piston type front brake calipers
• Aluminium, bolt-on type passenger footrest brackets
• New instrument panel.with analog rpm counter
• New seat texture

S2 also has a black forks and a slightly different fairing.

https://www.yamaha-motor.eu/designcafe/en/index.aspx?view=article&id=442642&segment=Sport%20Touring&archive=false&page=4
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PostPosted: 12:50 - 06 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an s2 its lovely and likes me to tickle its belly
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PostPosted: 12:53 - 06 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

S1s continued to be produced after 2007 without the above changes and with a 78hp engine.

Analogue tacho alone is enough to go for the S2 in my opinion, the digital one on the S1 is as much use as a limp dick in a brothel.
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PostPosted: 14:56 - 06 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ben90 wrote:
S1s continued to be produced after 2007 without the above changes and with a 78hp engine.


Exclamation That's a significant difference
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PostPosted: 15:30 - 06 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of the changes are above.

Couple of other things, you won't find a 78hp one in this country So don't worry about that.

There are a few further differences between the two. I've got an S1.

S2 has better brakes, S2 has a better dash (bbut they can be swapped between the two bikes), S2 has adjustable forks as well which is nice. They also have a slightly different fuel tank.

Downsides are that there are additional cats in the exhaust headers so to get a true cat less system you have to replace the headers with the earlier ones. Also the bike runs a lambda sensor on the s2.

Out of the two for general road riding you won't notice much of a difference I wouldn't expect. The better brakes and nicer dash on the later model was my preference but I just bought the best bike for the money at the time was an S1. Paid 2500 for my 06 with 6k miles 2 years ago, with a scorpion exhaust, crash bungs, power commander and custom map and alarm.

They make good bikes, a power commander and an exhaust with a good map and they'll keep up with 90% of the pre 06 sports bikes. I've got a video of me out accelerating a zx6r on the track.

The only thing I've added to mine is a quick shifter to go with the power commander ( which is awsome btw).

It's never gone wrong or cost me any money, other than a new set of tyres.

Currently looking at putting some R6 cams in for a laugh but don't know if I'll bother.

I say go for it.
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PostPosted: 15:55 - 06 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

0l0dom0l0 wrote:
S2 has adjustable forks as well which is nice.


No, no they don't.
Totally non adjustable front suspension as you can see in the picture.

https://www.sportbikes.net/forums/attachments/fz6-fz6r/149110d1201234617-all-fz6-riders-show-us-your-bike-fz6-dash-640x480.jpg

Please provide evidence of your claim.

0l0dom0l0 wrote:
there are additional cats in the exhaust headers


No, no there aren't.
The cat is positioned between the headers and the end cans (we have had this discussion before). De-cat is by a simple link pipe.

https://cdn.yamaha-motor.eu/design-cafe/2003/2003-FZ6-Fazer-11exhaust-.jpg
From yamaha website: Exhaust: The new up-swept muffler creates a great sound and helps to clean the emissions with its catalytic converter (see arrow)

Please provide evidence of your claim.
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PostPosted: 19:04 - 06 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was wrong about the adjustable forks - was the facelift FZS that got those.

Picture comparing the S1 and S2 headers. Pretty obvious where the cats are in the S2 headers:

https://www.600riders.com/forum/attachments/fz6-mods/55883d1421012735-08-fz6-condensed-build-thread-final-impact-img_20150111_131156_485-jpg

Head over to 600 riders to read about it. The place is full of info. [/url]
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 06 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

or does this do it for you?

https://www.sportbikes.net/forums/attachments/fz6-fz6r/126603d1181911099-cat-eliminator-07-dsc00020.jpg
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 06 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

0l0dom0l0 wrote:
or does this do it for you?


It does Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 06 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking at those two exhaust manifolds side by side, my brain says the catalyst equipt ones look better flowing once you have smashed out the cat innards that is?

I'm glad that later FZ6's got the 4pot brakes that they should have always had. I do think these are great bikes and probably the successor to the mk1 Honda Hornet for a middleweight hoonigan bike?

Shame the forks are non adjustable, but I wonder if any R6 suspension bits would fit?

Oh and does anyone else think the FZ6 could make a good poor mans Street triple? Laughing
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