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 Posted: 16:11 - 10 Feb 2015 Post subject: How far? |
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Hi guys,
I'm going to come straight out, how far can you lean on a bike?
Can I lean further than I think? I feel like the bike will come underneath me sometimes especially on a roundabout. I don't want to be stupid an end up coming off.
If someone can help a noob out
By the way I'm on a tablet as well so grammar isn't exactly on point.
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The goal is to keep the bike as upright as you can.
When I touch the tar with the peg, I usually go feck fast.  ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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Thanks for the replies guess it's something I wil know over time, with the bike I have with certain conditions and all the above mentioned |
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Watch some moto gymkhana. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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| ScaredyCat wrote: | I say this because I tend to move the bike under me, with me staying upright, rather than trying to get my knee down... |
Leaning the bike whilst moving the body to the outside of the corner as pictured moves the centre of gravity closer to the wheel tracks, requiring more lean and reducing available ground clearance. Its not a good idea. Exceptions to this include some off-road techniques and deliberately going out to scrape pegs. I can't see the rider's right foot, but if it's like his left, bearing load on the instep and splayed outwards, the boot will touch before the peg giving an unsuspecting rider a nasty surprise. He's also sticking his right knee out rather than gripping the tank for control, somewhat uselessly as in that position the exhaust will scrape before the knee.
If the rider here kept his ass central on the seat and did not move his upper body beyond control inputs, he'd make that corner with less lean and less risk of unintentional control inputs from moving on the bike. Less lean on the same corner means less chance of touching a peg or you can take the same corner faster. This is how roadcraft would have you ride, and the least fatiguing.
Leaning the body further into the turn further decreases the lean angle of the bike, further increasing sustainable cornering forces before the under carriage of the bike touches down. The tradeoff is control for corner speed as the rider risks making unintentional control inputs by inexpertly changing position and further commits to the corner by the change in body position. It must therefore be done well. There is plenty of coaching on how to do this correctly, and is the current favoured technique for racing on paved roads and circuits.
On a big tourer or awkward cruiser movement side to side in the seat may not be practicable. Personally I'm over the moon my new exhaust gives me more room on the right so I can put the ball of my foot on the peg whilst keeping my foot in line with the bike, rather than on the instep splayed out or ball of foot on the peg with my heal pushed out by the curve of the rear header. This gives much easier ground clearance. ____________________ Bandit. does. everything. |
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