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I doubt a reputable dealer would prevent you taking option 2 to your own choice of garage (well, within a reasonable distance anyway). If they don't like the idea then walk away... ____________________ current: ducati monster 750
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| Sload wrote: | Bangernomics only works if you know what you can get away with so if you are not confident with the spanners spend for security. |
^^^ This
My daily drivers are always cheapos, but I run a garage, so I know what I'm buying and if it does break, parts are at trade prices and labour is free, so there's almost no risk.
On the other hand, bearing in mind £3k could be considered banger money, £4-5K is kinda no man's land, not enough to significantly reduce the chances of expensive bills, but too much to throw away if it does go wrong.
You sound like an ideal candidate for a PCP deal, where you put in a minimal deposit, then only spread a proportion of the balance over a period of time; at the end of the term, you either pay a sizableish lump and own it outright, p/x and use any equity as the deposit for the next one, or hand the car back and start from scratch.
You get a new (can be secondhand, if really want to keep your costs down) car every few years and you aren't blowing big wads of cash on a potential lemon. ____________________ Things get better with age; I'm close to being magnificent........
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| Rogerborg wrote: | | Shaft wrote: | bearing in mind £3k could be considered banger money |
Could it? I'd say 3 figures is banger. I do agree that you need to spend a lot more to get a real increase in 'peace of mind'.
Broad brush, I consider that modern cars plummet very rapidly towards banger or scrap value the moment that they're out of warranty, given the costs of doing more than consumables.
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Take a look on Autotrader and see what £3K buys you.
I just did a search for an average family car (Ford Focus) and it gets you a middling spec, around 10 years old and with c100K on the clock.
That's the kind of age and mileage where you can reasonably expect to start seeing significant faults developing, so what would you think is going to be the life expectancy of a car like that, before you have to start throwing money at it?
I would say you'll be doing well if you get a year out of it, which puts in the same bracket as a well bought 900 quid runaround.
Obviously there are exceptions to the rule, but £3000 doesn't really buy you much these days. ____________________ Things get better with age; I'm close to being magnificent........
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I think we're agreeing...
I'd pay under £1K (and as little as possible) or over £5K and not bother with what's in between. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Cheap cars needn't be a source of constant breakdowns and oily hands...
My mum's car for instance, a '97 Peugeot 106. We bought it for her about 18 months for £250 with a brand spanking new (day before) MOT.
Since then, we have replaced 2 tyres (she wore them out) and I now have to put new brake pads in the front. Oh, and the exhaust backbox needs replacing for ~£25.
Previous to that car, she had an old-style Fiat panda - bought for £250 and lasted over 5 years with nothing more than normal servicing. She only wanted to replace it because she wanted rear doors (loading grandchildren). We sold it for £250.
Almost a year ago, we sourced a car for a my dad - a '95(ish) astra. Bought for £300 (again with a new MOT). So far, the only 'work' it's had done is checking the tyre pressures.
That astra replaced a Renault scenic that cost over 6 grand and was a constant source of expense and hassle. For instance, the remotes stopped working completely so to lock/unlock 3 of the 5 doors we had to bodge a pair of wires out of the boot - touch them together to lock/unlock. To 'secure' the doors that didn't lock at all, well, just park near a wall... Following it deciding not to run on more than one cylinder that got sold for £200 and scrapped 2 weeks later by the new owner. Plugging it into a Renault diagnostics machine was going to cost over 200 quid and even then it was apparently (according to the Renault garage) was still going to be a case of replacing electrical parts until something worked. Bargain.
The wife has a 106 as well, we paid somewhere around 600 for that with 40,000 miles on it. That's gone a couple of years and maybe 18-20k (I really don't take that much notice) now - a few tyres have been replaced and I also had to replace the glow-plugs.
Apparently, my Discovery was also 'banger money' at just over £1,500. I did 40k in that over 5 years when the cambelt went (there is a thread on here somewhere). That cost about 70quid to fix the engine when I finally got my arse in gear and it's back in almost daily service again.
With the exception of the Renault (and the disco cambelt, which to be fair could have been avoided by changing it a bit sooner - it was only about 2,000 miles before interval replacement), none of them have needed anything other than normal servicing.
So, from that massively representative pool of 6 cars, the most expensive and most hassle example to keep running was the one that cost more to buy than the other 5 put together. ____________________ Any and all advice given should not be followed - if you have to ask it means you don't know so get a man in to do it for you. |
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I'd go and buy another Yaris, you'll get one with half the mileage of yours for less than £2000, then go and put another 100K on it for pennies.
Cars don't come much more reliable than the Yaris and if that's what you're used to, better the devil you know. ____________________ Things get better with age; I'm close to being magnificent........
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I loved my mk3? Alto GL. a 953cc 645kg car that was simple, easy to work on, and consumables lasted for ages. I sold it 2years on for £50 less than I payed for it and spend just a couple of £££ on it at most I reckon.
Then had a brainwave and spent £3000 on a 20year old Rover 200 with few std parts, lots of the comfort bits removed and with a best cruise mpg of around 24. Seemed like a winner!  |
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there is plenty available for a grand privately that will see you right
i paid £700 for a69k mile passart estate 2 years ago,
and barring a cv joint and a couple of dodgy sensors, its been pretty hassle free,
i for one wouldnt rent to buy, when my car dies, ill still get a couple of hundred in scrap, and ill repeat thee process ____________________ the humans are dead
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