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 Elfminster L Plate Warrior
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 Posted: 09:12 - 17 Feb 2015 Post subject: 2009 Honda CBF 125 M9 Front Wheel Resistance |
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Hello. I just got my first motorcycle. I have only ever ridden a twist and go and that was years ago. I took her out yesterday for the first time. I thought I would have a nightmare learning to use gears for the first time but it all went really well. I felt a bit unsafe around roundabouts but I think that is because I need a new back tyre. Maybe it needs air too.
It's raining for the next few days which is dissapointing but I don't feel confident enough to go out while the roads are slick. I have to get to the garage when it's dry to get a new back tyre put on.
Anyway, after riding the bike for a while I noticed something odd. If I am cruising at say 50MPH and take my hand off the throttle allowing the bike to slow down naturally there seems to be some kind of resistance on the front wheel - a bit like driving a car with the handbrake on slightly. A friend said it was a probably a piston caliper sticking. I tried spinning the front wheel while it was parked up (while someone lifted the bike) and there does seem to be a lot of resistance there as it won't spin freely. The front brakes do work fine though.
Also, I think the back tyre is 100/80-17 52 P TL M/C (ContiGo!) but would this tyre fit my bike?
https://www.oponeo.es/neumatico-moto/irc-sn23-urban-snow-100-80-17-52-l-delanteros-traseros-tl-m-s#80882099
Thanks for any information.
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 Rogerborg nimbA

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Bike brakes do need maintenance. The capiler is exposed to all the road crud and they do stick.
Do this, clean the pistons. Also check that it's sliding on the sliding pins - Google will provide videos. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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You probably need to give the front caliper a good clean, and check the pistons for signs of rusting or pitting. As the pads wear-down, more of the piston is exposed.
I do mine every 6 months or so, because dust tends to build up and I notice the pads dragging on the disc when I'm pushing the bike into the garage.
The tyre you are looking at, seems to be for use in the snow - so would probably wear out pretty quick on dry roads. You should be able to see the markings on your tyre that give you the size and speed rating, but if you are in any doubt, try www.blackcircles.com and enter your reg number to find recommended tyres.
I find that a variation of just 2-3psi either side of the correct pressure, makes a massive difference to the bike's handling characteristics - especially when riding over white lines, wet leaves, loose chippings and ironwork - so get yourself a decent tyre pressure gauge. ____________________ Honda Varadero XL125(V8)
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| FriendlyEllis wrote: | What, the glass is half empty, everybody is trying to con you, ?? |
Not everybody.
OP needs to figure out how to do simple tasks on his simple bike. If he gets into the habit of relying on Honda dealers, they're going to make his wallet squeal like a pig.
The only peace of mind I get is knowing that I've done a job myself. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Thanks for advice. I just put the bike on its stand on an incline, pressed the clutch and rotated the wheel forward and then backwards. There is definatley some resistance when rotating the wheel forward but noticeably less resistance when rotating the wheel backwards. There is also a bit of a rubbing sound when rotating the wheel forward.
I am tempted to take a look at the calipers myself after watching a few videos on how to do it. |
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Go for it, it's pretty simple stuff. Other than the obvious issue of bolting everything back on securely, the only real hazard is accidentally popping a piston out. Just pump them out a bit at a time, cleaning as you go, and stop when you reach clean piston. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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I detached the caliper and removed the pads. The caliper rods were very stiff so I washed and scrubbed them with a toothbrush and they gleam now. They are moving freely while pressing the break and I can push them down with my fingers.
The break pads were completely flat. Absolutely nothing left on them!
Ordered some EBC pads (https://www.wemoto.com/bikes/honda/cbf_125_m9_ma/09-10/picture/pads_front_ebc_standard_gg_type/) which cost 33 Euro so I have to wait a few days for them to arrive before I can ride again. Then I have to go get a new back tyre for 74 Euro.
I hope I haven't bought a turkey but I did get it cheap.  |
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| FriendlyEllis wrote: | In effect Rog your saying doing it yourself gives a better job than someone who is trained and does it for a living. |
I'm saying that I'd rather rely on brakes that I've done to my standards, than on what some possibly trained spanner monkey has done to whatever standards he considers appropriate for someone else's bike.
| FriendlyEllis wrote: | Are you not good at anything?
Should people not rely on you?, and instead DIY, I assume you make a living, by people somehow relying on you to do your expertise right? |
Yes. I don't change brake pads on 125s though. If I did, I'd view people who paid me to do it as lazy sods. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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I decided to buy and replace the entire caliper system, with pads, from a bike with very low mileage from a breakers yard which worked out a lot cheaper than buying the seals and bolts separately especially when you factor in delivery.
Fluid is not black, yellowish, but now I have a new caliper on the way I am going to bleed the front breaks then move onto changing the engine oil. Then onto chain etc.
Thanks for all the advice. Happy with the bike especially discovering how cheap parts are on eBay.  |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 11 years, 246 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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