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 Posted: 20:53 - 22 Feb 2015 Post subject: The questions that have been asked and answered 100 times.. |
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So, as above. This'll be the typical n00b thread that no doubt all the questions will have been asked and answered 100 times. But I want my own thread to feel special. So...
I'm 20, had quite a bit of off - road biking experience through my teens, so I know the basics of off - road etc and I've had a car license for about 3 years so I know how to behave on the road as well.
Anyway, got my CBT booked for 10/03/15, £130 with bike and equipment hire included. Seems to fit a pretty standard pricing pattern so that's all good. Pretty confident in going into it, I'll obviously need to take in the advice of the instructor, with regards to bike handling on the road. As I'm used to just ragging about up a field. Any tips ?
The main goal at the minute is to successfully obtain my A2. Now this is where the questions start... I know I need to do my theory, that's fine, just need to get my head in the books. After that I know I will need to take a few lessons on a bigger bike. Now my local riding school have quoted the following;
6 lessons - £484
9 lessons - £644
12 lessons - £744
Do those prices seam about right ? Each lesson lasts 2 hours. With those prices it works out about £60 - 80 a lesson. Just seems a bit steep. I mean I want my license so I'll pay it, just don't want to get bumped lol. For tests they have also quoted;
Mod 1 - £45
Mod2 - £160
Now I haven't inquired as to what those test prices include, but I'm guessing bike hire, equipment hire, DSA test costs and I would like to hope maybe a bit of a practice before hand. So, again, do those prices seem reasonable yeah ?
And finally, whats the best way to go about the whole process. Should I first of all get my CBT, buy a used 125cc and get some on the road experience. Or should I do my CBT and go straight to the A2 and a bigger bike ? I know its essentially my decision. Just looking for any input.
If you're still reading at this point, gold star to you!!
Thanks in advance for any advice, tips, tricks and answers :) |
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The one thing I would urge you to do is to not pay a penny until you've met the instructor who will actually be teaching you.
If you're going to pay up front (and I would not), get a written contract. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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I agree 2 hours here and there is a waste, better to book 4 hour slots for Mod 1 & Mod 2.
I paid £95 last August for my CBT..... big bike lessons were £25 per hour plus test fees on top.  ____________________ Previous Bike: Skyjet SJ27
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| Rogerborg wrote: | The one thing I would urge you to do is to not pay a penny until you've met the instructor who will actually be teaching you.
If you're going to pay up front (and I would not), get a written contract. |
I agree, mostly. It is good to go down to the school you are interested in and have a chat. You can gauge a lot just by talking to the instructor. We're in the lucky position that our owner,chief has trained both Ollie and I so we are all working from the same sheet.
I'm not sure how other schools do it but our system is deposit and pay over the course. EG You can pay the deposit, then before mod 1 training you pay half, then the other half before mod 2 training. (we've even been known to tailor the payments to the students too).
Best advice when going to see schools, is do not be afraid to walk away and never come back. As said, for the most part, you do get what you pay for. If you go to a cheap school do not be surprised if you get cheap training.
Another good thing is asking on here about any schools in your area. The chances are, with the amount of members we have, someone is bound to be able to recommend one. ____________________ illuminateTHEmind wrote: I am just more evolved than most of you guys... this allows me to pick of things quickly which would have normally taken the common man years to master
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Teflon-Mike:I think I agree with just about all Pinky has said. |
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| pinkyfloyd wrote: | My advice would be go do your theory test then get to a decent school and do a full CBT to DAS including test fee's. Not one that offers lessons at that price and test fee's as extra. Just a breakdown of our costs to compare.
Our school is not the cheapest in the area and without blowing smoke up my own arse (our students do that for us) we do not teach you to pass as a rule. We teach you to ride. You get what you pay for.
Our cost from zero to hero is £700. This is broken down into a CBT, 3 full days training and both motorcycle tests. Normally broken down as follows:
Friday, CBT (possibly with big bike conversion thrown in)
Saturday big bike work,
Sunday Mod 1 training (normally including access to the test centre mod 1 pad)
Monday mod 1.
The next Sunday mod 2 training
Monday Mod 2.
Look around, doing 2 hour lessons here and there is next to useless. If you remember your car lessons, you went through so many hours just recapping what you done the week before.
If you are going to go A2 licence, go intensive. |
That sounds more like it! I will have to speak to them about intensive courses when I am doing my CBT. I'll use my CBT to gauge how I feel about the school and the instructors.
| Rogerborg wrote: | The one thing I would urge you to do is to not pay a penny until you've met the instructor who will actually be teaching you.
If you're going to pay up front (and I would not), get a written contract. |
Yeah I think you are 100% correct about meeting the instructor first. Is that a regularly frowned upon thing yeah ? Paying up front I mean. Glad you mentioned it because I would have happily paid up front lol. Just because with my car driving lessons I used to pay up front for blocks of 10.
| aceslock wrote: | I agree 2 hours here and there is a waste, better to book 4 hour slots for Mod 1 & Mod 2.
I paid £95 last August for my CBT..... big bike lessons were £25 per hour plus test fees on top.  |
£25 an hour sounds more my cup of tea lol!
| pinkyfloyd wrote: |
I agree, mostly. It is good to go down to the school you are interested in and have a chat. You can gauge a lot just by talking to the instructor. We're in the lucky position that our owner,chief has trained both Ollie and I so we are all working from the same sheet.
I'm not sure how other schools do it but our system is deposit and pay over the course. EG You can pay the deposit, then before mod 1 training you pay half, then the other half before mod 2 training. (we've even been known to tailor the payments to the students too).
Best advice when going to see schools, is do not be afraid to walk away and never come back. As said, for the most part, you do get what you pay for. If you go to a cheap school do not be surprised if you get cheap training.
Another good thing is asking on here about any schools in your area. The chances are, with the amount of members we have, someone is bound to be able to recommend one. |
Its good to know that there may be a way to space out the cost rather than pay up front, well, if that's the way the school I choose works of course. Yeah, well I will just judge how I feel about the place during my CBT. Yeah, its the same with everything really. I always say it, pay cheap pay twice. Good idea, anyone reading this recommend any good schools in Scotland ? In the central belt area ideally.
| Bubbs wrote: | Just to mirror what others have said, go have a chat with them and see what they are like. I went with a company that were made up of ex police officers and I really didn't get on well with them, they were like drill sergeants that make me feel very uncomfortable and nervous.
I failed both mod 1 and 2 completely because of this. When I went with a different company 1 month later I aced the Mod 1 and had one minor in Mod 2. It makes a big difference if you're in a good head space.
Can't remember how much I paid but think it was around the £4-500 mark for 2 day intensive course which included tests, bike hire etc. |
The chap I spoke to on the phone seemed pretty sound, but obviously it's something I'll be able to gauge on the 10th. Yeah I think intensive is defo the way to go! |
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| Bubbs wrote: | Just to mirror what others have said, go have a chat with them and see what they are like. I went with a company that were made up of ex police officers and I really didn't get on well with them, they were like drill sergeants that make me feel very uncomfortable and nervous.
I failed both mod 1 and 2 completely because of this. When I went with a different company 1 month later I aced the Mod 1 and had one minor in Mod 2. It makes a big difference if you're in a good head space.
Can't remember how much I paid but think it was around the £4-500 mark for 2 day intensive course which included tests, bike hire etc. |
Could not agree more with this.
I only paid £400 for both tests and a few afternoons refresher training (i'd been riding about a year already..) but I would have happily paid over the odds for the standard of training I recieved. From the get-go all of the instructors I was put with made me feel relaxed and confident, no arrogant know-it-all drill sergeant antics.. Pointing out mistakes & teaching you ways to correct them without making you feel stupid.
If you can approach the tests feeling like the skills have been taught to you as opposed to being beaten into you then you stand a much better chance of passing first time.
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Its good to know that there may be a way to space out the cost rather than pay up front, well, if that's the way the school I choose works of course. |
As others have said, ask as many questions as you can. You'll find some schools to be quite regimented in their charge per hour, whereas others will charge a day or two's training then allow you to spread the time over four days, in half-day sessions.
Treat is as you would if you were shopping for a bike, or anything else really. If you get a feel-good vibe from a particular school and they seem sound, make a note to come back to them but still shop around & see what else is on offer. Either way, welcome to BCF..! Good luck and keep us posted  ____________________ '13 Honda CBF125 // '99 Suzuki SV650s // '98 Honda CB600F Hornet |
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