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 Posted: 23:24 - 22 Feb 2015 Post subject: was Mr 'Itler so bad? |
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in the pub last night an one of my mates (who wears foil hats) was going on conspiracy theories an shizz, an mentioned something called "the greatest story never told"
which basically paints Hitler in a different light, anyone ever seen it? |
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Am I to conclude that (forgetting a small thing like the holocaust) Adolf was just a misunderstood bloke and that he was just trying to get a few Europeans to see his point of view by running amok in Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Poland, the Netherlands, France, the Baltic, North Africa, etc, etc? Poor little Adolf
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| mentalboy wrote: | Am I to conclude that (forgetting a small thing like the holocaust) Adolf was just a misunderstood bloke and that he was just trying to get a few Europeans to see his point of view by running amok in Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Poland, the Netherlands, France, the Baltic, North Africa, etc, etc? Poor little Adolf  |
Yup, uppity little crayon muncher. Didn't he know that carving out empires, changing regimes and stabilising regions is an adventure best left to Britannia and her Colonies? We were just on a temporary break. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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| mentalboy wrote: | Am I to conclude that (forgetting a small thing like the holocaust) Adolf was just a misunderstood bloke and that he was just trying to get a few Europeans to see his point of view by running amok in Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Poland, the Netherlands, France, the Baltic, North Africa, etc, etc? Poor little Adolf
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Why not? Look at the history of the world and what Hitler was doing was nothing new. Hitler was a megalomaniac. He was also a fantastic speaker, ruthless tactician and as a result swept across a huge area of Europe before attacking Russia, which ultimately was his undoing. Specifically The Battle Of Stalingrad. He swept his Germanic nation along in a tidal wave of support and if he had won at Stalingrad I believe the world would be a different place.
It was nothing but conquest. Much the same as the various ones history has already seen. Ghengis Khan, Alex the Great, Tamerlane, Attila the Hun, The Romans, We could go on but you get the idea.
What made it seem so bad is there were a lot more people in the world and the weaponry was a lot more advanced. Yes Hitler had some radical ideas but lets face it, so did the Romans who slaughtered thousands for refusing to convert to Christianity when they converted themselves. What difference was slaughtering tens of thousands with gas compared to tens of thousands with swords and crosses? Dead is dead. The fact that Hitler seemed to do it wholesale makes him worse.
The oddest thing about it all, is Hitler did not do any of it for religion, which seems to be a major factor in any wars through history, including current wars. Hitler wanted a single world where everyone was equal (except those who were more equal of course). He was so far removed from what we know as a free world today he even made communism look attractive.
Was he a bad man? Very probably in todays world. Was he a misguided, miss understood genius? Most defiantly. Was he evil? No. He done what he believed in and a nation followed him. That does not make him evil. His methods were evil, but he stuck to his beliefs and believed he was making a better world for his people and they believed it too. ____________________ illuminateTHEmind wrote: I am just more evolved than most of you guys... this allows me to pick of things quickly which would have normally taken the common man years to master
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The winner will always write history to suit itself.
Dropping the atomic bombs on Japan shortened the war according to the Yanks, maybe it did but the second one was just pure vindictivness.
Dresden bombings in February 1945 - Why, the war was won, why kill thousand of civilians for no reason.
One of the charges against Hermann Goering at Nuremburg was 'Waging a war of agression' including the indicriminate bombing of civilian population centres.
'Bomber' Harris got medals for the same thing.
But that's war.  ____________________ Victory Cross Country American tractor. |
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As I see it, Adolf was just a figure that did the PR for the Nazi party and movement. Read something about the trials in Nuremberg (1945-1946). You are going to find out, who the real criminals behind all the bad Nazi stuff were. Hitler in his last weeks/months was a mentally ill person and all the ideas to clean the germanic race and conquer the world were put in his mind by his fellow Nazi mates.
Hitler's personal doctor was doing experiments on him, not only with methamphetamine but also with other substances. I mean, he was a small dark haired, brown eyed leader of the Aryan race. It's just like if today, the president Jacob Zuma, of the South Africa fought for getting rid of black people and all the white people powered by the cult would worship him.
Also, look at the WW2 winners, Stalin killed, allegedly, 60 million of people, and he was not high when he ordered his troops to burn out Jewish villages, to shoot all the high rank officers, to starve the Ukraine people that did not want to give the communist party their land and so on. USA is a story on its own, also the France and Belgium with their colonies in Africa, when they provoked massacres and genocide of civilians, one example for them all, Rwanda (1994), and I could go on.
The UK, well, let's not go there again.
EDIT: I almost forgot, the big Trial was based on the good old: ''we won so feck you'' principle. This was definitely not a fair trial. The accusations made by the winners were based on retroactivity which is and was unacceptable even back then. Nullum crimen sine lege, non in Germania, I guess.
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So I'm clear, anyone who's not as bad as Stalin is just misunderstood? ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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So I'm clear, anyone who's not as bad as Stalin is just misunderstood? |
I'm not sure Stalin was all bad. ____________________ Greetings from Shitsville! |
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| Rogerborg wrote: |
So I'm clear, anyone who's not as bad as Stalin is just misunderstood? |
Che Guevara seems to be a hipster hero yet he was responsible for having a fair few people killed aswell  ____________________ '00 Aprilia RS50 > '92 Honda CG > '99 Yamaha Fazer > '91 Yamaha RXS > '79 Suzuki X5 > 01' Honda Cg > 07' Honda Cg > 82' Kawasaki Z200 > suzuki gsxr 400 gk73a > honda vfr 400 NC30 Mod 2 Passed 09/06/2011
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Well, I didn't see any of em do anything wrong, so they must all be ok. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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| Rogerborg wrote: |
So I'm clear, anyone who's not as bad as Stalin is just misunderstood? |
Stalin was misunderstood as well.....
He was just having a bad day, said to his teddy bear - 'won't somebody rid me of these trouble makers. Beria overheard him and the rest is history!  ____________________ Victory Cross Country American tractor. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 11 years, 235 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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