was Mr 'Itler so bad?

[mudcow007]

in the pub last night an one of my mates (who wears foil hats) was going on conspiracy theories an shizz, an mentioned something called "the greatest story never told"

which basically paints Hitler in a different light, anyone ever seen it?

[marsden1967]

Funnily enough I was reading something on't'internet the other day that was supposedly showing redacted FBI documents that said that Hitler ended his days in Argentina and showed a photo of someone who looked very much like an older Adolph. All the major powers knew about this, aided his passage to Argentina and have been complicit in the cover up ever since.
Always remember - history is written by the victor.
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[Raffles]

[marsden1967]

Forgot to add that I have heard of that documentary but have not seen it. I have also heard testimony from seemingly credible people, some of them Jewish, that the holocaust was not as it is portrayed.
As time passes no doubt new information will come into the public domain which will cause a revision of the events of this period. Can't see it happening in my lifetime though.
Before anyone sreams anti-semitism at me, I might be Jewish myself.
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[mudcow007]

you see this is what i was saying to my (tinhatted) friend, unless you are actually there at "the" event, you are reading someone elses account of what happens....


documentary is 7 hours long!!

[marsden1967]

Here is the linky that shows supposed redacted FBI documents (hope it works if not will someone sort it out please).
Make of it what you will.


https://www.theeventchronicle.com/study/fbi-hitler-didnt-die-fled-argentina-stunning-admission/
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[mentalboy]

Am I to conclude that (forgetting a small thing like the holocaust) Adolf was just a misunderstood bloke and that he was just trying to get a few Europeans to see his point of view by running amok in Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Poland, the Netherlands, France, the Baltic, North Africa, etc, etc? Poor little Adolf

Edit: the FBI 'proof' in the above link has a passage in it that says 'information obtained....by.... unable to be verified'. Conclusive proof then!!
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[marsden1967]

@ Mentalboy.

Noone is saying that Hitler was a saint but all we have heard is one side of the story- ours,"the winners". The thing is though since WW2 we have been constantly fed propaganda which we swallow unquestioningly.
Take ISIS for example, there are many reputable sources, some from within the US government itself, stating that ISIS have been funded and trained by the CIA in Jordanian training camps. Do a search for the Project for the New American Century, dig a little deeper than just the official line and it may give you some more insight and understanding about what's going on in the MiddleEast.
Yes it might seem like tinfoil but there is no doubt that we are being lied to and if you critically analyse the information then some of the tinfoil makes sense.
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[mentalboy]

[Raffles]

[Lord Percy]

I think most of Germany will have said something by now, since it's their own reputation at stake. Yet most of them seem happy enough to say, "Yes it was pretty bad, sorry about that."

I think I'll settle with it being another generic war of continental control.

Germany wanted more power, the rest didn't like it, so a huge war started.


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Regarding how we only know what our history books tell us:

An American friend of mine was always taught that the Pearl Harbour attacks were a surprise that no-one was ready for.

He went to Japan recently and discovered their version of events goes like this:
Japan - "Hey America, get civilians out of Pearl Harbour because we're coming to bomb it."
USA - "Hah, empty threats, piss off."
REPEAT x 10 over a few months.
Japan then bombs Pearl Harbour.

So, who knows the real truth..!!

[Rogerborg]

[smegballs]

I have always thought the "england got involved to save poor liddle Poland" as taught in schools is a load of shite.

Germany and Russia had already agreed on how to split up poland, and launched a simultaneous invasion, meeting up in the middle. Not to mention the murder of all those Polish officers in Katyn by Russians.

Yet we didn't go to war with Russia did we? Only ze germans...

I don't know why Hitler is seen as the big bad guy, his kill count is way below Stalin or Mao. I think he was dickhead on an ego trip, esp the way he disregarded pretty much all his senior military staff on how to fight the war and forced them into retard-tier actions like Kursk, or forcing divisions to hold ground and be annihilated rather than a defence in depth.

[Rogerborg]

[Tritey]

My wife is German and in German school they skip the whole war period, it's not on the curriculum. Also using Nazi sayings such as schweinehund is illegal.

I think we could learn a thing or 2 from Mr H. Rather than have these carbon dioxide testers for scanning lorries for illegal immigrants, we should hook them up to a contraption that shouts out "WARNING IN 30 SECONDS THIS TRAILER WILL BE FILLED WITH ZYKLON B....29, 28, 27 ETC..

[heavy east European accent]"No wait mate, we come out now WAIT.."/[heavy east European accent].

[Rogerborg]

[pinkyfloyd]

[Rogerborg]

[Polarbear]

The winner will always write history to suit itself.

Dropping the atomic bombs on Japan shortened the war according to the Yanks, maybe it did but the second one was just pure vindictivness.

Dresden bombings in February 1945 - Why, the war was won, why kill thousand of civilians for no reason.

One of the charges against Hermann Goering at Nuremburg was 'Waging a war of agression' including the indicriminate bombing of civilian population centres.

'Bomber' Harris got medals for the same thing.

But that's war.
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[RhynoCZ]

As I see it, Adolf was just a figure that did the PR for the Nazi party and movement. Read something about the trials in Nuremberg (1945-1946). You are going to find out, who the real criminals behind all the bad Nazi stuff were. Hitler in his last weeks/months was a mentally ill person and all the ideas to clean the germanic race and conquer the world were put in his mind by his fellow Nazi mates.
Hitler's personal doctor was doing experiments on him, not only with methamphetamine but also with other substances. I mean, he was a small dark haired, brown eyed leader of the Aryan race. It's just like if today, the president Jacob Zuma, of the South Africa fought for getting rid of black people and all the white people powered by the cult would worship him.

Also, look at the WW2 winners, Stalin killed, allegedly, 60 million of people, and he was not high when he ordered his troops to burn out Jewish villages, to shoot all the high rank officers, to starve the Ukraine people that did not want to give the communist party their land and so on. USA is a story on its own, also the France and Belgium with their colonies in Africa, when they provoked massacres and genocide of civilians, one example for them all, Rwanda (1994), and I could go on.

The UK, well, let's not go there again.

EDIT: I almost forgot, the big Trial was based on the good old: ''we won so feck you'' principle. This was definitely not a fair trial. The accusations made by the winners were based on retroactivity which is and was unacceptable even back then. Nullum crimen sine lege, non in Germania, I guess.

TL; DR, Hitler was high, mentally ill puppet of the Third Reich. What's your excuse, allied forces?
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[chickenstrip]

Well, I didn't see any of em do anything wrong, so they must all be ok.
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