Bike weight when pushing up an incline

[orangepeeleo]

Hey,

To get my bike into my back garden at the minute I need to push it up a slight hill and over 2 little steps (no more than 2 or 3 inches high) now this is easy enough with my little YBR weighing a massive 125kg

Thinking for the future I've been looking at specs of bigger bikes, CBR600, Hornet, ZX6R, and while the width of them shouldn't be a problem when coming through my back gate (all around 730-750mm, not much different to the YBR) they are all obviously heavier, about 50kg on average.

Is 50kg extra weight going to make a huge difference in the amount of grunts I need to spend getting them up my little hill, at the moment its barely any grunts with a small run up to the gate, as long as I keep the momentum up to the flat area where I keep it, but I'm worried I'll end up buying a bike and dropping it on my first attempt to get it into the garden :/ Is it worth getting the back gate made wider, a few lumps of wood to make little ramps for the 2 steps and just riding it up rather than pushing it?...Images of me giving it a bit too much up the hill and ending up through the kitchen wall come to mind though!
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Just ride it up?

[Nash GT]

[Taught2BCauti...]

Get someone with another bike to tow you.
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[Chuffin Nora]

[CaNsA]

[finniee]

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Feet down and use the clutch.

[FlightRisk]

Don't worry about it.

Other morning I went to ride up a 2-3 inch kerb facing a plate glass shop window, front wheel went up fine, back wheel started spinning like mad. 'Moar REVS!', I thought. 'Everything better with MOAR RE... um... no… nope.'
Engine off, stand up, push up kerb, engine on, go park.

Moar revs could have been a better story though.
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[Baffler186]

Yes, ride it up. After 3 or 4 tries it will become second nature. I have to reverse mine downhill through a narrow gate, and then freewheel backwards for 10 yards before bumping down a pavement. After a few times you get used to it.

The easiest way to drop a big bike is to push it uphill over obstacles. Your front wheel will hit the step and turn towards you (as your right hand pushes the far handle bar away from you), then you'll fall forwards on to the bike.
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[ScaredyCat]

Yup, as everyone else has said, ride it up - it's a hell of a lot easier. I have to do this in my garden. One thing you might want to add is some reenforcement in the grass. I've found it all too easy to dig a hole.

My bike weighs 225Kg - I'm not pushing that, and me anywhere.
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[notbike]

[Sload]

I used to ride mine up stacked slabs into a conservatory but the bars were wider then the door. Was always twitchy leaning it on the angle halfway through the door whilst holding it on the clutch and twisting the bars through, just get on with it

[RhynoCZ]

Lower the bars are, worse to push it is.
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[Albigularis]

Our garage has a very steep slope going up to it, I just ride it up. If you don't feel comfortable riding it up, start it up and put it in first, stand beside it then use the clutch as a way to help you push it forwards.

The bike will ride up over the two steps fine. I rode my Street Triple up a flight of stairs once.
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[Pete.]

I ride mine up a scaffold board into the back of my van just like in The Italian Job. Except the van's parked, and it doesn't then try to fall off a cliff, and there's no gold. Otherwise it's just like that.
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132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good

[orangepeeleo]

Haha,

Thanks for all the encouragement... and mocking

I will try and ride it up into the garden when I go home later and report back!
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[grr666]

I 'ride' mine while I am walking alongside it as I have to traverse a couple
of ramps to get mine out into the road.
Obviously then the bike pushes itself up the ramp and all I do is steer.
Much easier to do than push.
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[XBIKER]

Definitely agree with walking it in gear up over steps, narrow ramps etc as should the worst happen then you are still on your feet capable of "saving" it

Riding up steps IIFFF you get it wrong can leave you hanging over the precipice trying to avoid dropping it. Always found it easier to push a punctured bike in gear using gentle throttle while walking along beside it, sometimes even turning up the tickover speed to make that simpler.
Obviously it becomes easier with practice to ride up and down such obstacles and I even recall one biker going down sixty park steps to the street below only to find police round the corner

[stevo as b4]

Get Yo skinny ass down the gym and start benching some weights and doing dead lifts. After a while of that and eating every opportunity you get, you'll be able to push it up a 1in2 incline while stopping half way to do some push ups one handed while you hold the bike up.

This will look much more tough guy and hero than riding up the garden path, wobbling and then falling off in a heap while the bike tumbles back down and lands with the throttle jammed open screaming, as you try to die a little bit inside, probably as a fit girl walks past!

[orangepeeleo]

Got the bike in the garden tonight and didnt drop it, decided to go for a combination of advic and rode it up some of the hill before jumping off and walking it up over the last step using the clutch/throttle

The cat was watching me the whole time, not sure he knows that there was a legit chance of a kitten dying

And yeah, I'm getting myself down the gym to prepare for a bigger bike lol
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[gbrand42]

Fly to the Dagobah system, speak with a small green Jedi Master. Learn of the Force and serve a long apprenticeship to master it's mystical ways. Then fly back to your house, grow a pair, get on your bike and ride it up the path. There that wasn't so hard was it?
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