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Supermoto_Fan
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PostPosted: 20:50 - 26 Feb 2015    Post subject: Ross Kemp extreme world: Australian bike gangs tonight 9pm Reply with quote

Really enjoying and found this series interesting with Memphis, Calais and Honduras etc.

Tonight it's Australian bike gang culture, I didn't even know that they have a problem with bike gangs down under

Worth a watch if nothing else is on, sky1 I believe [/u]
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PostPosted: 21:05 - 26 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

No bike gangs down under

Have you ever watched mad Max Shocked
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PostPosted: 21:13 - 26 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope Razz

So every state in Australia but one has a new law that bikers can't ride in more than a group of 3...
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PostPosted: 21:15 - 26 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

We should have this law, Harley Riders shouldn't be allowed to ride together, everyone else is free to do as they wish.
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PostPosted: 21:16 - 26 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will be another case of " It is all kicking off here, I am outta here".
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 26 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Supermoto_Fan wrote:

So every state in Australia but one has a new law that bikers can't ride in more than a group of 3...


In some it's worse than that, members of clubs can not even associate together in public, so it's a crime to have a beer with a couple of friends if all in a club. Also being in a club bars you from certain professions (even if you have no criminal record). Pretty draconian.
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PostPosted: 21:28 - 26 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Except I don't think the new laws affect just Harley riders, it seems to be any bike gang/club/society.

I'm with Ross on this one - innocent until proven guilty.
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PostPosted: 21:29 - 26 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't believe what I'm watching, associate in groups of more than 3 and your a criminal regardless of your own history, just because someone with u has a conviction. It's a very steep way of dealing with it, they're basically labelling them terrorists just for wanting to ride with there mates and go for a beer.
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PostPosted: 21:40 - 26 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Supermoto_Fan wrote:
Except I don't think the new laws affect just Harley riders, it seems to be any bike gang/club/society.

I'm with Ross on this one - innocent until proven guilty.
It is no different in NI, we have had a few bike runs stopped because there were too many bikes and the police could not provide an escort ( we never needed nor wanted one), these were not speed merchants out playing Joey Dunlop wannabees but vintage runs with marshals simply attending Gala weeks around a fixed road road circuit ending in a static display or parade laps around a closed circuit. We now travel on own to avoid any hassle.
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 26 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

moonzoomer wrote:
Supermoto_Fan wrote:
Except I don't think the new laws affect just Harley riders, it seems to be any bike gang/club/society.

I'm with Ross on this one - innocent until proven guilty.
It is no different in NI, we have had a few bike runs stopped because there were too many bikes and the police could not provide an escort ( we never needed nor wanted one), these were not speed merchants out playing Joey Dunlop wannabees but vintage runs with marshals simply attending Gala weeks around a fixed road road circuit ending in a static display or parade laps around a closed circuit. We now travel on own to avoid any hassle.


It seems to be much worse than that in Australia if you watch the programme
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PostPosted: 22:43 - 26 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

rac3r wrote:


It seems to be much worse than that in Australia if you watch the programme
It does, New Zealand is even worse with the worst thug bike gangs on the planet bar none. The problem we have in NI is that a gang is officially any group of more than 3 people which means if you get beat up by 3 people you cannot claim of the NI office for compo but if 4 people beat you up the NI office pays the compo.
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PostPosted: 22:56 - 26 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there a link to where those of us who do not subscribe to Mr Murdock's channels can watch this?
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PostPosted: 10:46 - 27 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went on a Police rideout in New Zealand and ended up at a Headhunters club house in West Auckland. It was down a country path and they had a bus blocking the entrance.

Was about as close to mad max as ive ever been. Was about one in the morning and was a guy welding stuff in a barn. Very surreal and im pretty sure my holiday insurance didnt cover me being in a gang pad.
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PostPosted: 11:15 - 27 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ariel Badger wrote:
Is there a link to where those of us who do not subscribe to Mr Murdock's channels can watch this?


On a normal TV, don't worry about paying a licence.
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PostPosted: 11:40 - 27 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I watch it anyway but didn't know it was a biker gang one.

I think Ross Kemp's docu's are fantastic, pretty niche too, nobody else seems to go out and do that kinda stuff and get the kinda insight from all the different perspectives involved.
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PostPosted: 12:45 - 27 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ross Kemp... was he in Spandau Ballet?
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PostPosted: 14:11 - 27 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mudshark wrote:
Ross Kemp... was he in Spandau Ballet?


Na Ross was in Right said fred
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PostPosted: 14:25 - 27 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

blueglue wrote:
Mudshark wrote:
Ross Kemp... was he in Spandau Ballet?


Na Ross was in Right said fred


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bsApDcW1ng
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 27 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like his stuff, he seems to cover both sides pretty well, one thing the Oz programme showed me was that the UK isn't the only Nanny state, in fact at times I thought it showed the UK as not half as bad in comparison to some other so called democracies, but then I saw all the great sunshine in Oz and thought fu@k it, I'd still like to live there!

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PostPosted: 20:39 - 27 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bit that made me laugh was the last couple of minutes when he was talking to the ex copper turned college lecturer or something (not entirely sure what) and he was saying that the bikers are portrayed as the main criminal gangs but in something like 700 arrests of bikers they only confiscated about 20 million or so dollars when the entire criminal gangs cost upwards of 500million, so it's not really the bikers anymore but they are being picked on because they are easily identifiable.
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PostPosted: 14:30 - 28 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

gdj444 wrote:
I like his stuff, he seems to cover both sides pretty well, one thing the Oz programme showed me was that the UK isn't the only Nanny state, in fact at times I thought it showed the UK as not half as bad in comparison to some other so called democracies, but then I saw all the great sunshine in Oz and thought fu@k it, I'd still like to live there!

Jonesy


I've been put off Aus for probably a good 10years now, as people all saying that it's hot, nice, loads of space and freedom are really quite wrong when you look at the laws, political situation, and the real so called freedom of movement and doing what you want. I know truckers get a really raw deal in Aus, and they do really pick on such easy targets and be very picky about the slightest things. Motorcycle laws being a bit strict don't really surprise me in the slightest either.

I'll go out to say that apart from broken Britain, overcrowding, lack of national identity and being discriminated against for being native british, we don't have it that bad for law and order. We are far more liberal in what we can do and when than many of the countries us brits have aspired to emigrate to, like the US, Aus, and Canada.

I don't want too much invasive law and restrictions on my life and what I can do, so I've decided I'll never leave mainland Europe if I want out of the uk at some point. California, Vancouver, or Adelaide thanks but no thanks!
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PostPosted: 14:58 - 28 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 15:42 - 28 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 01:47 - 01 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just got around to watching this today. Couldn't quite believe that these laws had been approved by somebody.


I was definitely on the "bikies" side of the argument, but then I wasn't sure how much of that was down to riding myself, so asked my mum what she thought of it cos I know she watches them too, and she said she was completely on their side too. She is completely indifferent to bikes, biking and bikers.


So it wasn't just me then.


But playing devils advocate, I wonder how heavily biased the editing was.
It could well be very impartial, and for the most part I would argue that Ross Kemp does a great job of portraying both sides of the argument without prejudice or bias, (take the Ross Kemp on Pirates one for example). But then he is obviously a biker himself and so could that have affected it. I'd like to think not.

But then I'd also like to think we don't live in a world where a 1st world, developed and civilised (allegedly) country has laws that can close your business down or even jail you solely for who you associate with regardless of what you do, and deny you the right to appeal or even see the evidence being used against you.
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PostPosted: 04:54 - 01 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Llama-Farmer wrote:

But then I'd also like to think we don't live in a world where a 1st world, developed and civilised (allegedly) country has laws that can close your business down or even jail you solely for who you associate with regardless of what you do, and deny you the right to appeal or even see the evidence being used against you.


I think we're all brought up to think like that but really we have a huge amount of absurd social issues ourselves.

Like the earlier post describing how you need a police escort in Ireland if your convoy of bikes is too large. Why..?!?!!

The same goes for protesting, or when 'too many people' gather in a public area. Suddenly the public need to be controlled and ruled and kept in order.

It's all based on negative assumptions and weird prejudices.

The Australia example is pretty extreme though, that's for sure.

Sort of unrelated but about some more stupid Australian rulings: For new year they set a no alcohol policy in a big public park in a major city (forgotten which), stating that last year it cost about $10'000 to clean up the leftover mess. The policing of the alcohol ban was then budgeted at $30'000... And of course it ruined the entire event.
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