New Drug Driving Laws

[Vincent]

So, are all the tokers going to stop smoking now these new laws are being introduced?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31683571
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[grr666]

Uuuum.... No, probably not.
According to article it's up to 36hours since you last had a spliff until you are in the clear.
Can't see that many regular smokers paying much attention, or going without for 36 hours either to be honest.
It's been illegal to drink and drive since god was a boy but people still do it.

I think more lives would be saved (Isn't that always the reason they give?) if stopping mobile
phone use at the wheel was given priority.
It's far more common than the former I'd wager and just as if not more dangerous.
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Shoot them all.
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[Rogerborg]

Benzoylecgonine is a metabolite of cocaine, and it persists for weeks after use.

It's almost as though it's not actually about driving impairment.
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[grr666]

Nail on head as usual Rogerborg.
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https://www.businessinsider.com/it-turns-out-that-smoking-marijuana-may-actually-make-you-a-better-driver-2011-12?IR=T

A more biased source:
https://www.tokeofthetown.com/2012/04/auto_insurance_site_says_marijuana_users_are_safer.php ...

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[Vincent]

So do they intend to allow a certain amount of cannabis in your system.......like alcohol?

Has anyone ever witnessed anyone whos driving/riding has been impaired after smoking a spliff?

Only time I can remember myself being affected was after smoking some Nepalese Templeball in a huge bong when I was quite young, Shortly after leaving the place, I approached the very busy six ways roundabout in Erdington. I could still ride OK, I was just tripping out on the amount of traffic and stuck to the spot
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[sensi5446]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8KrSaHS_hE

fast forward to 4.06

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[Vincent]

If I was ever tested positive, it'd probably be because I'd been exposed to some criminal element smoking....perhaps that hippy hitchiker I'd just given a lift to...... and had inhaled passively......as my brief would point out rigorously
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[Iain.]

[Skudd]

I'm seeing my Doctor due to the stuff I'm on. If it means I cant drive for a while so be it. If it means saying on what have been prescribed for an average day will be OK, then fine, but if have to up my dose for any reason then I will not drive. Being sensible is the key. Even if I haven't taken over the specific dose and yet still feel iffy, then I don't drive.
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[P.addy]

They were beyond baked they must have thought they were riding 4 up on a unicorn.

I point blank refuse to help my brother get his licence until he stops doing weed. I'd rather he didn't have to explain to his kids why he's mowed down 2 of their school friends and is going to prison all because of a little chase to be high. Waste really.

That could be because I've never done drugs at all, but my prejudice comes from being an inch from death after a high, drunk, disqualified driver decided to smash into me and cripple me.

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[Ste]

New drug-driving laws are a 'stunt' says traffic lawyer

Newsbeat asked him how easy it is to get people off on drug-driving cases. The police won't like his answer.

"Unfortunately it's extremely easy," he says. "I have never lost a case of driving while unfit through drugs.
"The statistics show that if you're charged with it, you have a 50% chance of acquittal.
"Because it's so hard to secure a conviction, the police don't want to waste their time and money arresting people, when they think the best chance they have is a one in two chance of getting a conviction."

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Nick Freeman doesn't think these new laws will change anything because the new devices will only detect two illegal drugs, cannabis and cocaine.

"The savvy illicit drug user will simply start using other types of illegal substances," he says.
"We don't need these screening devices, they've cost a lot of money, and in my view, they're not fit for purpose because they miss out on 14 of the 16 controlled substances.
"What the police need is the sort of equipment that exists in other countries which will detect the vast majority of controlled subjects.
"The police are being handicapped by the enormous restriction that exists with this new equipment."

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He says: "If you're taking diazepam for depression, for example, you're going to want to know from your doctor, 'How long is it going to stay in my system for? What will my prescribed dose equate to in a sample of blood?'
"Is the doctor going to know that? You need it to be absolutely watertight."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/31675060

[Polarbear]

We have random D&A tests in work and they (the company that do the tests) say 24 hours for Heroin to get out of your system but up to 3 MONTHS for cannabis to be still detectable.

These are piss tests though, I have no idea what the sensitivty of the police test kits are.
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[Clutchy]

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Unfortunately, with hardly any beat police and even fewer patrol cars, more people are taking the pi55 now. I suspect this is more of a deterrent than actual enforcement.

There does seem to be a growing number of people who don't care and will blatantly smoke weed in public now. It used to be only smoked in private when I was younger, I'd never dream of walking down the road or driving a car whilst smoking weed.

As for the "weed makes you a safer driver" cobblers, yeah, like a few pints does...
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[Ste]

Passing the drugs test just means that Sainsburys weren't bothered about cannabis use.

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