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Ribenapigeon
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 05 Mar 2015    Post subject: Channel 4 News cry-in for cyclists last night. Reply with quote
Did anyone see the segment on cycling in London on C4 news last night? I know John Snow is a cyclist and he openly supports cycling issues but I thought it was such a biased report. There was no attempt to include the views of the other two wheeled road users, the tax paying trained and licensed ones. I am thinking of emailing C4 News about the matter. Any thoughts on what points to bring up?
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PostPosted: 12:54 - 05 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
yeah why not ... put up a template wit the e-mail and I will send a plagiarized copy.
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PostPosted: 13:01 - 05 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nothing to add, apart from cry-in is my new favourite phrase, not sure if it will be able to top butthurt as my most used phrase i've learnt from the internet...but I'll try Smile
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PostPosted: 13:06 - 05 Mar 2015    Post subject: Re: Channel 4 News cry-in for cyclists last night. Reply with quote
Boozehawk wrote:
the tax paying ones.


I'm a cyclist.

I absolutely guarantee I pay more tax than you.

Get off my roads.
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Ribenapigeon
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PostPosted: 13:23 - 05 Mar 2015    Post subject: Re: Channel 4 News cry-in for cyclists last night. Reply with quote
Monkeypony wrote:
Boozehawk wrote:
the tax paying ones.


I'm a cyclist.

I absolutely guarantee I pay more tax than you.

Get off my roads.


Then we can assume you wont mind your taxes paying for a cycle registration and compulsory basic training system to be put in place.

You pay no specific tax beyond VAT associated with using a bicycle on the roads though.

It would be good thing though if C4 spoke with someone who has the benefit of motorcycle experience as well as cycles.
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PostPosted: 13:25 - 05 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
What tax are you talking about?
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 05 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ste wrote:
What tax are you talking about?


The one that doesn't get used for what it was originally mis-nicknamed as giving the impression that it does actually indeed get used for what it sounds like it should get used for but doesn't.
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PostPosted: 13:44 - 05 Mar 2015    Post subject: Re: Channel 4 News cry-in for cyclists last night. Reply with quote
Boozehawk wrote:

Then we can assume you wont mind your taxes paying for a cycle registration and compulsory basic training system to be put in place.

You pay no specific tax beyond VAT associated with using a bicycle on the roads though.

It would be good thing though if C4 spoke with someone who has the benefit of motorcycle experience as well as cycles.


Yes I do.

Motorcycle - Taxed.

Car - Taxed.

My income - Taxed at 40% for a very large proportion of it.

Council tax. Band D. And I live alone.

Like I say. I pay more tax than you.

Get off my roads...
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Ribenapigeon
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PostPosted: 14:51 - 05 Mar 2015    Post subject: Re: Channel 4 News cry-in for cyclists last night. Reply with quote
Monkeypony wrote:
Boozehawk wrote:

Then we can assume you wont mind your taxes paying for a cycle registration and compulsory basic training system to be put in place.

You pay no specific tax beyond VAT associated with using a bicycle on the roads though.

It would be good thing though if C4 spoke with someone who has the benefit of motorcycle experience as well as cycles.


Yes I do.

Motorcycle - Taxed.

Car - Taxed.

My income - Taxed at 40% for a very large proportion of it.

Council tax. Band D. And I live alone.

Like I say. I pay more tax than you.

Get off my roads...


Not the bicycle though?
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PostPosted: 14:54 - 05 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
How should the tax rate for a bicycle be decided?
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Ribenapigeon
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PostPosted: 14:55 - 05 Mar 2015    Post subject: Re: Channel 4 News cry-in for cyclists last night. Reply with quote
Boozehawk wrote:

You pay no specific tax beyond VAT associated with using a bicycle on the roads though.
.


Operable word being "associated". So that tax. The one cyclists don't pay for the privilege of taking a vehicle on the road network.
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 05 Mar 2015    Post subject: Re: Channel 4 News cry-in for cyclists last night. Reply with quote
Boozehawk wrote:

Not the bicycle though?


Tax exempt.

Just like some VW golfs, Audi A3s Minis, fiestas, BMW i3 etc etc.

And I STILL pay more towards the roads than you.

So get off my roads.
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PostPosted: 14:58 - 05 Mar 2015    Post subject: Re: Channel 4 News cry-in for cyclists last night. Reply with quote
Boozehawk wrote:
The one cyclists don't pay for the privilege of taking a vehicle on the road network.

So?
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PostPosted: 15:22 - 05 Mar 2015    Post subject: Re: Channel 4 News cry-in for cyclists last night. Reply with quote
Boozehawk wrote:
Boozehawk wrote:

You pay no specific tax beyond VAT associated with using a bicycle on the roads though.
.


Operable word being "associated". So that tax. The one cyclists don't pay for the privilege of taking a vehicle on the road network.


That's because bicycles don't release Co2, and are therefore tax exempt.
However, i think i know a way around the exemption!

Due to increased respiration rates as a result of cycling, and therefore increased released of Co2 as a by-product of said respiration, cyclists should be made to wear and breathe from oxygen tanks so as to ensure they have paid for the extra air they consume, and thusly, pay for the extra Co2 they release.
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Ribenapigeon
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PostPosted: 16:25 - 05 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ste wrote:
How should the tax rate for a bicycle be decided?


How tight your Lycra strides are.
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Ribenapigeon
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PostPosted: 16:26 - 05 Mar 2015    Post subject: Re: Channel 4 News cry-in for cyclists last night. Reply with quote
Monkeypony wrote:
Boozehawk wrote:

Not the bicycle though?


Tax exempt.

Just like some VW golfs, Audi A3s Minis, fiestas, BMW i3 etc etc.

And I STILL pay more towards the roads than you.

So get off my roads.


Get out of my potholes.
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Ribenapigeon
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PostPosted: 16:31 - 05 Mar 2015    Post subject: Re: Channel 4 News cry-in for cyclists last night. Reply with quote
Ste wrote:
Boozehawk wrote:
The one cyclists don't pay for the privilege of taking a vehicle on the road network.

So?


So?

Well given the thread is about the editorial choices of an independent television news channel the question of who does or doesn't pay tax or how much they pay is moot.
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PostPosted: 16:42 - 05 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
Cyclist don't pay road tax (we'll ignore the fact that it's not actually called road tax) therefore they shouldn't be allowed to use the roads?
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Ribenapigeon
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Ste wrote:
Cyclist don't pay road tax (we'll ignore the fact that it's not actually called road tax) therefore they shouldn't be allowed to use the roads?


I see what you're doing there Ste: Tut Tut
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You said "you pay no specific tax beyond VAT associated with using a bicycle on the roads though".

Out of everyone who doesn't pay road tax, you're most bothered about cyclists?

How much road tax should cost for a bicycle?
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PostPosted: 18:33 - 05 Mar 2015    Post subject: Re: Channel 4 News cry-in for cyclists last night. Reply with quote
Monkeypony wrote:
I absolutely guarantee I pay more tax than you.


Clearly, this means that your rights are more valid than the rights of us mere peasants.

Do you have an opinion on the matter, or did you just come to the thread to tell everybody how rich you think you are?
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PostPosted: 18:41 - 05 Mar 2015    Post subject: Re: Channel 4 News cry-in for cyclists last night. Reply with quote
dydey90 wrote:

Do you have an opinion on the matter, or did you just come to the thread to tell everybody how rich you think you are?


Laughing

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/01/10/article-2260386-16DCA922000005DC-657_634x376.jpg
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Monkeypony
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 05 Mar 2015    Post subject: Re: Channel 4 News cry-in for cyclists last night. Reply with quote
dydey90 wrote:

Clearly, this means that your rights are more valid than the rights of us mere peasants.

Do you have an opinion on the matter, or did you just come to the thread to tell everybody how rich you think you are?


Quite the opposite. Booze hawk made the point that cyclists don't pay for the roads. I was pointing out that as most of the money used for roads is raised from council and income tax, as well as the fact that most cyclists also own a taxed motor vehicle, his statement was a touch retarded.

Maybe I was being too subtle and you missed it Laughing

I then made the point that there is a wide selection of motor vehicles now available that don't pay tax, but people don't refer to them as 'non contributers' but it seems you missed that too.
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PostPosted: 21:01 - 05 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ste wrote:
You said "you pay no specific tax beyond VAT associated with using a bicycle on the roads though".

Out of everyone who doesn't pay road tax, you're most bothered about cyclists?

How much road tax should cost for a bicycle?


Two thirds that of a tricycle of course 😊
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I thought this thread might touch on things like how the money that should be used to fix back roads that are potholed and patched to death isn't going where it should and how dangerous that is for cyclists as well as motorcyclists, but I guess it's just a "who pays more tax in general" contest right now. Very Happy
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