Full Exhaust System - NSR 125R

[DarkLightFX]

What's going on guys.
So I am highly considering a new exhaust system for my Honda NSR125 (JC22). I have found an Ebay seller who is selling a full Giannelli System for about £160 (including postage).

Here is the advert: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181182813152?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

The reason behind the new system is obviously to reduce weight, as the original weighs a ton. Improve performance, sound and looks.
Anyone else used Giannelli on there NSR or have any feedback.

I have attached the expansion chamber and carbon silencer - however I believe it is extra for the carbon edition. The chamber is made from mild steel I believe.


My other option is that there is a Portugal Ebay Seller who is offering to make me a custom system for the price of £225. This include a full stainless steel expansion chamber and this silencer.

Here is the advert: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301544699014?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Just looking for some opinions and advice.
Thanks

[c_dug]

I can't comment on the pipes in question, but in a more general sense if it was my money I'd want something stainless so you have at least half a chance of it looking alright a few years down the line.
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[DarkLightFX]

Worth the extra £60 to get a full stainless you think?

[RhynoCZ]

You don't need stainless steel exhaust for a two stroke. The exhaust system will outlive the engine.

Also, if you want to play with numbers, the stainless steel one would be heavier than a regular steel exhaust. If you use the same carbon fiber composite silencer on it, which is cheap actually.
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[stirlinggaz]

Hi,
i'd go for the giannelli, simply because it has proven results.
as much as i like those portugese spanny's, they are a bit of an unknown quantity.
pay as much as you can afford. so 60 quid to go stainless would be worth it imo.
mild steel v stainless? stainless steel every time. why? (when i have a mild steel jolly moto) simply because the steel used is very thin, (hence the 10kg less it weighs over oem) & the mild steel rusts...quickly so has to be treated/painted quite often.
if you werent in the damp uk, mild steel/ss wouldnt be an issue but 1 winter untreated in this country & mild steel will turn to rust.
forget the comments about the exhaust outliving the engine(made in jest, i presume) , the nsr has one of the most reliable 2t engines out there. trust me, i know.
you pays your money & you take your chances. me? i'd stick with the exhaust that has a proven track record & setting it up shouldnt be too much of a problem.
they portugese exhausts might be brilliant, in portugal but weather makes a big difference to the running of a 2t, & there are dyno prints of nsr's fitted with giannelli,arrow & jolly moto exhausts but none available for the portugese ones.
if i was selling a hand made performance expansion chamber, i'd be backing up any claims with at least a dyno print.

cheers,
GAZ

[c_dug]

Agree, exhaust outliving the engine comment is presumably a joke.

Stainless system from a known manufacturer would get my pennies.
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[DarkLightFX]

As always Gaz you been super useful. The Giannelli System is only a mild steel and the silencer they are advertising is incorrect. It's actually a silencer in kevlar with a little spout thing. (I don't like the look of it IMO).

As for the Portugal guy, despite it being a good deal since it's full stainless, as you said, it's not made by a manufacturer nor do I know the results.

So I am back to square one with this whole exhaust fun!
If I am spending the money, I'd rather get a full stainless system and looking to spend around the £200 range.

I've seen the Tyga System but for the aluminium can and stainless chamber it's £300 alone. Not to mention it requires mods to fit and sounds like a right pain.

Let me know what you guys think.

[Old Git Racing]

Stainless is a waste of money imo. Mild steel, carbon silencer, light as possible. It will outlive the bike due to being coated inside with carbon/oil deposits, plus it needs to resonate to work correctly. Not to be insulting, but if it was a 'better' 2 stroke then it might be worth spending on something like Tyga titanium pipes.

OGR
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[DarkLightFX]

I do understand where you are coming from, but what's the point of spending £200 on a system which will rust in the rain and fall apart?
Do you have any example of a carbon and mild steel system for the NSR 125? A link would be appreciated...

[stirlinggaz]

Hi,
before i stumbled on the jolly-moto, i was going for this, after recommendation from Alains https://www.ebay.de/itm/AUSPUFF-ANLAGE-GIANNELLI-KEVLAR-HONDA-NSR-125-R-BJ-92-01-/171650989943?pt=DE_Motorradteile&hash=item27f7323f77&clk_rvr_id=799754172640&rmvSB=true

the point is, the steel used in all these performance exhausts is VERY thin (hence them weighing just over 1kg) & they do need looking after, both s/s & mild steel.
the mild steel rusts quick & both can be pierced very easily, & im not sure how easily/cheaply they could be welded.
just get the best you can afford & remember most of the expansion chamber is hidden under the fairings.

even though i wasnt keen on trying the portugese exhausts, after doing some research & after speaking to the maker, i was seriously contemplating buying one(just the spanny, i was going to buy a sperate kevlar or carbon can) but then the jm became available.
its your money.....

cheers,
GAZ

[DarkLightFX]

I have seen that also. I can the Giannelli Carbon/Kevlar System both silencer and expansion chamber with postage for £165. Which isn't bad to replace the full system for something shiny and better performance. However I'm not keen on the 'spout' on the end of the can. But they all seem to be like this on 2 Strokes *facepalm*.

Also it is only mild steel which I've heard rust easily and I feel that would be a waste of money. I don't fancy treating it constantly either...

The Portugal guy seems like a good option but it's very 'un-official' and it's not going to come with any warranty or fittings e.c.t. which steers me away.

I honestly don't know what to do.
Rather reasonably priced Giannelli Full system which will potentially rust over the next two years and I'm not sure if I like the look of the silencer but it's growing on me.

Giannelli Exhaust on Ebay:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181182813152?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Ignore the display image, this is the actual product.
https://katalog.scootertech.at/produkte/53502.html

In saying all this, I don't think I have many options as the exhaust systems are very rare in 2015 for the 2001 NSR.

Let me know any further thoughts,
Thanks

[stevo as b4]

I thought both Arrow and Giannelli did an NSR125R exhaust system?

I would just buy an off the peg item like these, and if you don't like the original finish, then have it stripped and Chromed instead. If they do a good job of it, it's almost as easy to look after and keep nice as stainless, and it will last longer than if it were painted.

You can get custom made 2stroke exhausts (in stainless if you want?) from at least three uk companies that I can think of. Most will want the bike for fitting up a bespoke system, and if they are looking at extracting ultimate performance/catering for engine mod's they might want the engine to do lots of measurements on, to calculate dimensions etc.

[stirlinggaz]

[stirlinggaz]

[MCN.]

Slower than standard. That is all.

[stirlinggaz]

[stirlinggaz]

Hi,
hey! you seen this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EXHAUST-GIANNELLI-STREET-2T-HONDA-NSR-125-R-1992-2001-KEVLAR-/191542734721?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2c98d62f81
seems a good deal to me. giannelli have a good reputation. looks good as well
Stainless ssteel expansion chamber with kevlar end can, very nice & 160 quid! f*ckin bargain imo.
cheers,
GAZ