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Some are. Problem is front tyres are usually "backwards" with their tread so it channels the water to or away from the rear wheel. Can't remember which, far too early.
Some people do it and just put them on backwards. MOT guy will likely spto a mile off  |
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If it is state by the manufacture as a rear and you use it on the front
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It's not specifically mentioned in C&U
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1986/1078/part/II/chapter/C/made
But I wouldn't fancy your chances arguing that it's "[suitable] having regard to the use to which the motor vehicle or trailer is being put"
The MOT manual, very curiously, requires a fail for "a tyre specifically designed for front wheel use fitted to the rear wheel;" but not t'other way around. I know which one I'd rather have fail.
It does insist on the direction arrow being correct though.
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hi,
thanks guys, you have given me a few things to think about
i'll need to find out if it is indeed marked anywhere as a rear & if said mark can "fall off"
i know its directional, so i'll get it put on with the arrow pointing "right" way.
its needed specifically to pass an mot. bike hasnt done much since last mot, but got advisory for front tyre being close to limit.
by my measurements, its now on the limit & the f*ckin anal mot tester round this way (the only one btw) wil take great delight in failing it. he seems to go over my bikes particularly more than most. i know he knows i do 99% of work myself & usually re-build my bikes from the ground up & he just doesnt like it.
bike probably wont be ridden in anger after mot, its just a wee 125 toy 2t & i really dont see the point in paying for premium rubber, until such times its actually gonna be ridden,
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| Rogerborg wrote: | How would he like a VT17 appeal?
On the limit isn't under the limit. Might be fun just to shit him up.  |
hi,
oh i've thought about it, a few times but now i just accept hes a c*nt & i sometimes actually enjoy the challenge. it keeps me on my toes.
but when i say the current tyre "is on the limit" i actually mean the tread is worn down so much, i wouldnt ride the bike unless it was a warm sunny,dry day & even then, only to the test centre.
so, tbf, it needs replaced, i just grudge paying someone 80-100 quid for a tyre (+fitting) that i wont get much use out of.
the joys of having bikes that i rarely ride.
so given the option of a cheap tyre, even used, i'd go for it, even though i'll get charged 25 quid to get it fitted. (& thats to a loose wheel)
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| rubyhorse2 wrote: | as some have mentioned, i think the treads are directional. |
Hi,
yes, but thats usually just an arrow. pointing in direction of travel.
im aware that fitting a rear specific tyre may f*ck up the way the treads supposed to work.
but as long as the arrow is pointing the correct way & theres no obvious evidence of "REAR TYRE ONLY" or something similar, surely it will pass the MOT, right?
thats my only aim, pass the MOT, & if/when time comes to ride the thing or sell it, then it will be getting the usual pirreli super corsa or similar.
we are talking about the difference of around 100 quid with some tyres.
i'd hate to give this c*nt , say, £120 for a tyre & pay the mot fee, & by the time i actually ride it in anger, the bloody things "gone off". had this happen with 1 of my other bikes.
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See, my understanding is that the tread on a road tyre is only about stopping aquaplaning by squishing water into the grooves, and the actual tread pattern doesn't really mean much beyond 1980s TV adverts. The "maximum load" issue is about the construction of the tyre, and not unpeeling the radial ply.
Could very well be wrong though, this is just intardtubes wisdoms.
| stirlinggaz wrote: | theres only about 1mm of tread left. |
So, the limit for a motorcycle?
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| iooi wrote: | So why bother wasting money on the MOT then. If its only going to sit in the garage.
Get it finished. THEN MOT it |
hi,
you misunderstand me, its "finished". its complete & pretty much original.
i just havnt decided wot im gonna do with it.. do one of my "rip it all apart & spend 2yrs restoring it" or keep as is?
also. a family friend wants to learn to ride so it might be a candidate for that, no point spending too much cash on it, seeing as hes a bit....clumsy.
i'd like it to have an mot, im ocd like that. i like them taxed, motd & insured. most of my bikes are
actually, thinking out loud...if it wasnt mot'd but got stolen, would i get less money for it? most 125's sell for nearly double if they have a fresh mot.
i'd actually prefer the tyres to be a matching pair but thats not gonna happen this month.
i have been looking at part worns but i have never went this route before & did i mention its at least 25 quid to get a tyre fitted to a loose wheel?
also i didnt realise there were such cheap NEW tyres available. i've always got my tyres done at a garage & it looks like im paying through the nose for it, simply because im unable to diy it.
even factoring in the "fitting fee" it might be the best option, though i have been refused before.
yes, took a loose wheel, with a old tyre on it & had a new tyre (still with sticker on it) with me, to one of the local bike places (& there arnt many round here) & he refused. point blank.
pr*ck mumbled something about "safety","origin of tyre", then he was "too busy",
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Sounds like you need to learn how to fit your own tyres, it's not exactly rocket surgery. ____________________ Things get better with age; I'm close to being magnificent........
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