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| kramdra |
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 kramdra World Chat Champion

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 Posted: 02:13 - 27 Mar 2015 Post subject: D3O material? |
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Got some new running shoes today that contain this - first Ive heard of it. Seems like it might be good for bike armour/helmets.
Essentially it behaves like custard. On impact, it locks into a hard shape, but normally is flexible.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D3o
"In 2009, the UK Ministry of Defence awarded D30 Lab £100,000 to fit helmets in order to reduce the kinetic energy of a bullet or shrapnel on impact, because of its moldable properties."
Does not seem to be mentioned on BCF, done a search.
Is it any good?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151490780642
(there are cheaper ones)
It might also be good as bike crash protection? |
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| temeluchus |
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 temeluchus World Chat Champion

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I do recall someone making a very expensive set of textiles lined with that stuff.
As to its efficacy, pass.
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| defblade |
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 defblade World Chat Champion

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Full scientific test of D3O armour.
Sorta wish I'd had it for the knee armour in my crash recently, as I'm currently trying to heal up a jagged laceration where the Knox armour's hard shell dug well down into my flesh. The test above is a bit silly, as you'd generally only take one or two big knocks to one area. I do have it in my Furygan jacket as well, and in my bike jeans, where I barely notice it. ____________________ Honda Varadero 125cc => Suzuki Bandit 650 33bhp => 77bhp =>
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| Taught2BCauti... |
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 Taught2BCauti... World Chat Champion

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D3O has non-newtonian properties that are pretty good against high impact, but it would need to be incorporated with something else to give effective protection against injury caused by friction and sliding. ____________________ Honda Varadero XL125(V8)
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| b422063 |
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 b422063 Crazy Courier

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Meh, a sandwich can pass CE armour approval. |
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| Rogerborg |
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Their conclusion was that a a cheese and red cabbage sandwich is better than the non CE foam inserts fitted in some gear, not that it would pass EN-1621-1 (let alone EN-1621-2) but let's not let pedantry (or facts) get in the way of a good headline. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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| Iain. |
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 Iain. Could Be A Chat Bot

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Chunks of foam wont stop broken bones. For what it's worth, I've crashed twice in gear that was fully CE armoured and still cabbaged myself. Wouldn't bother upgrading existing armour at a cost of £££, however I did swap the Knox back protector out of my old jacket into my new one as it had a very thin piece of foam.
Anyhow,
https://dryohe.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/2ec87-quattrotempiprotectors.jpg
This stuff is a lot more comfortable than the D30. Would rather have the Quattrotempi, Held are using it in a lot of products at the moment. |
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 barrkel World Chat Champion
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| Iain. wrote: | This stuff is a lot more comfortable than the D30. Would rather have the Quattrotempi, Held are using it in a lot of products at the moment. |
I have these in my jacket and trousers (both Held 4t series, goretex proshell etc). You should take care that they are placed in such a way that they don't flex when you move your joints. The ones I had on my elbows were a little bit too far up the arm, and the armour broke into two pieces from the flexing after about 18 months.
The jacket is a fairly good fit in terms of shoulders, waist and arm length, but the elbow armour pockets aren't quite in the right place for me. On my second set of replacements I sliced about 3cm from the ends of the armour off, so the "cup" of the armour fits on my elbow when it's stuck into the pocket. ____________________ Bikes: S1000R, SH350; Exes: Vity 125, PS125, YBR125, ER6f, VFR800, Brutale 920, CB600F, SH300x4
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 11 years, 106 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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