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rk8479
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PostPosted: 08:29 - 31 Mar 2015    Post subject: Suspension rear mono shock Reply with quote

Long story short i will be replacing the rear mono shock on my bike and need to know what tool i can use to lift the bike to do this. I do not have a center stand on the bike, i was wondering if its possible to use car axle stands and lift the bike up by the foot pegs? Any help would be appreciated
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PostPosted: 08:34 - 31 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I'd do is put a ratchet strap through some part of the tail of the bike and attach it to the ceiling of the garage.
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PostPosted: 08:35 - 31 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
What I'd do is put a ratchet strap through some part of the tail of the bike and attach it to the ceiling of the garage.


I dont have a garage to do that, i have a garden and the space outside
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PostPosted: 08:52 - 31 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is how I did mine...

https://i789.photobucket.com/albums/yy178/AzAndBikes/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-02/1FDEAF36-34F0-41B7-AEF1-37B095A4DCC9_zpskxtesxvz.jpg
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PostPosted: 08:59 - 31 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Az wrote:
This is how I did mine...


Does that not affect the carb or fuel system laying it like that?
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PostPosted: 09:04 - 31 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

rk8479 wrote:

Does that not affect the carb or fuel system laying it like that?


Personally I would switch the fuel tap to off before doing it that way. I would also invest in an Abba stand too before doing it that way.
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PostPosted: 10:09 - 31 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would using car axle stands to hold the bike up by the footpegs be a good idea?
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PostPosted: 10:17 - 31 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

rk8479 wrote:
Would using car axle stands to hold the bike up by the footpegs be a good idea?


Your footpegs will probably fold up.
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PostPosted: 10:37 - 31 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I've not had a stand capable of doing it, I've jacked up the bike via the lower rear RH corner of the frame. Use a rag or similar to protect the paint/ally from the jack pad.

This usually lifts the bike so it rests on the front wheel, sidestand and the jack. Although if the frame is a funny shape, or the bike is particularly arse heavy, it may rest on the rear wheel, and be of no use to you.

It's not the most stable of structures, but it works if your stand/lift is otherwise engaged, packed while moving house or what not.

Break off the torque on the mounting bolts before you jack it, as the bike is more stable on its wheels. Stick the steering lock on, jack it up until the rear wheel just clears the floor, unscrew the bolts, drop the rear tyre and remove the shock.

If you have a willing assistant they can help support the bike, just in case...
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 31 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

carlosvalderrama wrote:
When I've not had a stand capable of doing it, I've jacked up the bike via the lower rear RH corner of the frame. Use a rag or similar to protect the paint/ally from the jack pad.

This usually lifts the bike so it rests on the front wheel, sidestand and the jack. Although if the frame is a funny shape, or the bike is particularly arse heavy, it may rest on the rear wheel, and be of no use to you.

It's not the most stable of structures, but it works if your stand/lift is otherwise engaged, packed while moving house or what not.

Break off the torque on the mounting bolts before you jack it, as the bike is more stable on its wheels. Stick the steering lock on, jack it up until the rear wheel just clears the floor, unscrew the bolts, drop the rear tyre and remove the shock.

If you have a willing assistant they can help support the bike, just in case...


Does it keep balance when on a jack? i feel it might just fall over?
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PostPosted: 13:38 - 31 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stands under the foot pegs, car jack under the engine.
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PostPosted: 13:55 - 31 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
Stands under the foot pegs, car jack under the engine.


Thankyou, which would you recommend?
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PostPosted: 14:08 - 31 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

rk8479 wrote:
Paddy. wrote:
Stands under the foot pegs, car jack under the engine.


Thankyou, which would you recommend?


He's saying do both.
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PostPosted: 14:19 - 31 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used both with my GSXR750. Block of wood with jack under engine to lift it gently, axle stands under peg/peg mounts.

Old kids swing/step ladder and straps for super bodge.
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PostPosted: 14:21 - 31 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
I used both with my GSXR750. Block of wood with jack under engine to lift it gently, axle stands under peg/peg mounts.

Old kids swing/step ladder and straps for super bodge.


Oh i see Smile
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PostPosted: 14:45 - 31 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
I used both with my GSXR750. Block of wood with jack under engine to lift it gently, axle stands under peg/peg mounts.

Old kids swing/step ladder and straps for super bodge.


Also do you lower the jack under the engine half an inch so that the front end stays down?
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PostPosted: 15:12 - 31 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get creative when you need to get a wheel off the ground for maintinance work.

Step ladder and a washing line, jammed in place with bent fork leg.

https://i1148.photobucket.com/albums/o574/_Iain_/07264643.jpg

Car ramp;

https://i1148.photobucket.com/albums/o574/_Iain_/50143ede.jpg

Bricks/sidestand combo;

https://i1148.photobucket.com/albums/o574/_Iain_/6A8A61D3-C7A6-4D55-8945-80EC9E718F8A-156-00000006D96B8FB9_zpsa8e06d64.jpg

Borrowed paddock stand;

https://i1148.photobucket.com/albums/o574/_Iain_/D9E2020F-BC52-44F1-A6A9-034A76D1CDA1-2184-0000035E34675203.jpg

Kick it over;

https://i1148.photobucket.com/albums/o574/_Iain_/5394E4A0-4572-4883-830C-66B2100F5569-94-0000000442086A10.jpg

You get the idea.

I don't have a pic, but a trolley jack under one side of the engine cases making the bike balance at a 45 degree angle on the sidestand is a really good way of doing a shock.
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PostPosted: 15:13 - 31 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

rk8479 wrote:

Does it keep balance when on a jack? i feel it might just fall over?


Depends on the mass distribution of the bike, position of the jack, and how high you raise it. I've probably done this on 3 or 4 bikes, all relatively sporty type machines and all were fine. I had one jacked in such a fashion and held for about 5 days while I stripped and cleaned the shock up.
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 31 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

rk8479 wrote:
Az wrote:
This is how I did mine...


Does that not affect the carb or fuel system laying it like that?


It started and ran perfectly fine after, so I'm assuming it's okay based on my experience... Maybe I got lucky?
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PostPosted: 09:34 - 01 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Az wrote:
It started and ran perfectly fine after, so I'm assuming it's okay based on my experience... Maybe I got lucky?


So did the GS Confused
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 01 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

rk8479 wrote:
Would using car axle stands to hold the bike up by the footpegs be a good idea?


Yes but only if you flip the footpegs and re-install them so they don't fold up on themselves. I have done this many times and never had a problem. Definitely helps if there's two people to lift the bike onto the stands but still do-able on your own as I usually was when I did it.

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PostPosted: 14:43 - 01 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd not do that... that is substantial weight on 2 fairly pussy pins.

By footpeg, I mean the mount point on the frame for them or the full peg.
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 01 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

how i imagine doing it would be like:

turn footpegs around so they dont fold in on themselves,
put bike up via rear paddock stand,
put axlestands under footpegs,
put jack under engine (maybe frame),
remove rear paddock stand,
replace suspension
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PostPosted: 00:54 - 03 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
I'd not do that... that is substantial weight on 2 fairly pussy pins.

By footpeg, I mean the mount point on the frame for them or the full peg.


Assuming by "pussy pins" you mean the footpegs then plus gear I reckon I weigh around 105kg and if I wear a bag then that could up to 115-120kg. I'm not the biggest person in the world and I imagine that bike manufacturers make footpegs able to support much heavier people than me plus room for safe margin on top. Admittedly you're supposed to sit down on a bike but there are plenty of times that you don't. My bike is about 230kg wet and some of that will be supported by the front wheel on the ground anyway.

Assuming by "pussy pins" you mean the pins in the axle stands well then my bike is much lighter than a car Laughing

I've used this method plenty of times and never had a problem nor would I hesitate to do it again in future. You can see in the photo that the ground isn't exactly an ideal flat surface either and it was fine.
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PostPosted: 01:20 - 03 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have a pivot, ie; the ground, it is quite simple to get an axle stand under the R side frame. Lift off side stand, and boot other axle stand under L side frame.
If you are replacing a shock, mono or otherwise, a couple of bricks and a folded ex 'poncing funny handshaker lodge masonic soapdodging cunt of a filthy spunkbucketting excuse of cockwombleage' lodger's bath towel or otherwise, under the back of the motor will suffice.

The triangulation of F wheel, sidestand and brick type bodge will se yer reet.
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