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PostPosted: 21:01 - 11 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good value? About half the price you've suggested!

Why should a fancy paint job double the value?
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PostPosted: 21:03 - 11 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug wrote:
Good value? About half the price you've suggested!

Why should a horribly chavvy paint job double the value?


FTFY


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PostPosted: 21:09 - 11 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug wrote:
Good value? About half the price you've suggested!

Why should a fancy paint job double the value?


Look again, the paint job is a side piece (done by a famous US painter) , the build cost doesn't include the bike itself, just the parts. all the top brands have contributed to it, organisation etc, it has every part you would ever want.
It's not just a custom bike, it's built by a massive company with help from all the big bike brands, the carbon wheels alone were 3 grand and that's just the tip of the iceberg.
Labour etc and organising something like this, especially in the UK, would be near on impossible unless you have some serious money, it's a one of a kind bike, a true one off.
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 11 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

do all the standard parts come with it?
paint job is not to my taste.
but its got to be worth the same money as a brand new(un spoiled)2015 r1



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PostPosted: 21:14 - 11 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

madmax123 wrote:
c_dug wrote:
Good value? About half the price you've suggested!

Why should a fancy paint job double the value?


Look again, the paint job is a side piece (done by a famous US painter) , the build cost doesn't include the bike itself, just the parts. all the top brands have contributed to it, organisation etc, it has every part you would ever want.
It's not just a custom bike, it's built by a massive company with help from all the big bike brands, the carbon wheels alone were 3 grand and that's just the tip of the iceberg.
Labour etc and organising something like this, especially in the UK, would be near on impossible unless you have some serious money, it's a one of a kind bike, a true one off.


Ooooh!

In that case, I offer three ponds, a yellow peanut m&m and some belly button fluff.
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PostPosted: 21:22 - 11 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

wristjob wrote:
do all the standard parts come with it?
paint job is not to my taste.
but its got to be worth the same money as a brand new(un spoiled)2015 r1



not


It came how it is, was bought from yamaha for silly money, tbh it's not something that just anyone would buy, you would have to really appreciate what's gone into it and what it means, it's not to everyone's taste obviously, it's one of those things that you need the right buyer for, some people will say it's not worth anything yet others will say it's worth loads, just like selling a door for 12 grand because Banksy scribbled on it, it's just what someone is willing to pay to own something special I guess, nobody can put a factual value on it, it's opinion.
As I said it's open to buy for the right offer and I have his permission to sell it for him and submit any offers to him, I know the guy really well.
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 11 Apr 2015    Post subject: Re: Avon 100th Anniversary R1 on the market! Reply with quote

madmax123 wrote:
cost £30,000 in 2011

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the bike still has everything that came on it and even the original screen and paddock stands!,
He's obviously not looking for 30k sorts of money for it but not stock money either, I think he would let it go for around £15k possibly a bit less!

You'll have people queuing up at that price!! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:28 - 11 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

madmax123 wrote:
wristjob wrote:
do all the standard parts come with it?
paint job is not to my taste.
but its got to be worth the same money as a brand new(un spoiled)2015 r1



not


It came how it is, was bought from yamaha for silly money, tbh it's not something that just anyone would buy, you would have to really appreciate what's gone into it and what it means, it's not to everyone's taste obviously, it's one of those things that you need the right buyer for, some people will say it's not worth anything yet others will say it's worth loads, just like selling a door for 12 grand because Banksy scribbled on it, it's just what someone is willing to pay to own something special I guess, nobody can put a factual value on it, it's opinion.
As I said it's open to buy for the right offer and I have his permission to sell it for him and submit any offers to him, I know the guy really well.


isnt the phrase "the right buyer" a euphemism for "fool and his money"?
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PostPosted: 21:55 - 11 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is what I don't understand about half my interests:

Model railways, people try and sell layouts for more than the cost of parts (by about double) claiming labour having gone into it

Fair enough, you've put time and effort in, but you also got enjoyment out of it and have admitted to getting bored and wanting a new project and a wad of cash to get yourself going.

I've got two choices, buy your layout, or buy the parts and build myself


same with this bike, I'm looking for a bike, not to pay for someone to take time out of their life to build it for me, yeh, it's a bit special and if to my tastes worth a bit more than a standard one, but not by much.


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PostPosted: 22:43 - 11 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

also on a note of just because its a one off dosnt make it desirable or valuable.The tron bike is still for sale,
ebay item 231477210739 the guy has dropped from his original 5 figure price to a price thats only a £1000 over what it would be worth standard,and for some reason it just wont sell.
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PostPosted: 09:25 - 12 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

That 14B R1 Crying or Very sad

BST wheels, YES
Gilles Kit, YES
Bazzaz, YES
Akrapovic, YES

But you can still find cross-plane R1's with all of the above and sorted suspension for cheaper. What I like about the R1's are how understated and mature the colours are.

8K for the bike. 10k max. Considering that new R1s are £15k, there is no hope in hell anybody will buy the previous version, in a non-standard state, for that price.

Over on the R1 forums I'm, people typically flog off their parts and de-mod their bikes to retain the value and gain as much money as possible from the trick bits! They only generally add 10-15%. The upshot is that guys like me can buy Akras, Gilles & Yoshimura bits for about 50% RRP.

De-mod and sell. He'd probably get a grand for those BSTs, and about 50-75% of retail on the other parts.
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PostPosted: 10:14 - 12 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's awesome that you found this bike so worthy of generally chatting about it that you chose it as the topic of your annual thread.

It's not at all a cynical way of pimping your chum's for-sale Frankenbike.

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PostPosted: 10:39 - 12 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

As above, it really needs the "right" buyer. If someone wants it to display (maybe a bike collection, or big tyre shop?) it'll be worth more than to someone who wants it to hoon around on.
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PostPosted: 11:02 - 12 Apr 2015    Post subject: Re: Avon 100th Anniversary R1 on the market! Reply with quote

Still has Avon tyres on?

So owned by someone not interested in bikes.

Bad start already.
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PostPosted: 11:13 - 12 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like it very much, especially the fart channel in the seat Thumbs Up

I still don't see you getting stupid money for it though.

Think on this, if your mate had bought 2 R1's at the same time, did this to one and then put it in a case. Put the standard bike in a case and stored them.

In 50 years time, which one would the collectors be falling over each other to buy. Thinking
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PostPosted: 13:08 - 12 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

madmax123 wrote:
it has every part you would ever want.


Where's the topbox then?
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PostPosted: 14:09 - 12 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

break all the aftermarket stuff and put it back to standard. You're dreaming if you think it's worth £15k.
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PostPosted: 16:39 - 12 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

madmax123 wrote:

Labour etc and organising something like this, especially in the UK, would be near on impossible unless you have some serious money, it's a one of a kind bike, a true one off.


Buy an 09 R1 for £6k, and order all of those parts. No custom parts there, all available off the shelf. I'm sure dream machine/padded cell could do that scheme with ease it was was your thing. Thumbs Up

Dreaming at that kind of money IMO, much like the 330 mile 2003 R1. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 12 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

nobody is going to buy a 4 year old for more than they can buy a new one, especially as the 2015 model is new, the only thing that may of made it worth more is if it was an unused bsb spec bike built by one of the top teams

rape the trick bits off it and flog them on ebay
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PostPosted: 07:10 - 13 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bike needs a decent story to sell. What's the point of all the trick performance farkles if it never got ridden in anger? Looks like a big monument to unspent potential in its current state.
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PostPosted: 09:21 - 13 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 07:30 - 14 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm confused, has Banksy signed this bike? Or do you get the door that he signed with the bike? Pics of the door pls.
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