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jayjaymozza
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PostPosted: 08:25 - 12 Apr 2015    Post subject: Big bore kit for my bike? Reply with quote

Hi, I am just wondering what big bore kit will fit on my Superbyke RMX-125, on a 08 plate, the engine is a 4 valve, very similar the the hysoung engine.

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PostPosted: 08:26 - 12 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy a bigger bike.
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PostPosted: 09:09 - 12 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont have the money for a bigger bike yet or I would lol
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PostPosted: 09:11 - 12 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bigger bike would probably be the cheaper option in the long run.
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PostPosted: 09:23 - 12 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, for the mean time I need it for work though, but could do with abit more speed/power.
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PostPosted: 09:33 - 12 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

For work? Well bear in mind you could well end up with something a whole lot less reliable than what you already have? Can you afford to be without transport when it packs up?
Then there's the legalities. Assuming you have a full licence, you'll need to inform your insurers, assuming they'll even touch the modification your premiums will go up, so might be worth checking with them first. Also you'll need to inform DVLA of the mod. What they make of that sort of thing I've no idea, you might have to pay out for a one-off type approval. You could well be into hundreds of pound of expense before you've even touched a spanner. So do you really need say another 10bhp that much.
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PostPosted: 12:04 - 12 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah sh*t yes, I didnt even think of that -.-

What do you think the best option would be to get a few mph out of it / a little extra power.
I was thinking a performance air filter with new jets.
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PostPosted: 12:12 - 12 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

jayjaymozza wrote:
ah sh*t yes, I didnt even think of that -.-

What do you think the best option would be to get a few mph out of it / a little extra power.
I was thinking a performance air filter with new jets.


Nothing you do will get more power.

Do licence, get bigger bike.

That is it.
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PostPosted: 12:57 - 12 Apr 2015    Post subject: Re: Big bore kit for my bike? Reply with quote

its a shite engine, doubt it could handle a bigger bore. And neither would rest of the bike, brakes are shite.

An engine transplant from a RS3/YZF125 would be a lot of work or impossible, but is the only 4T 125 with decent power.
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PostPosted: 13:10 - 12 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

jayjaymozza wrote:
What do you think the best option would be to get a few mph out of it

As last post.... fit a better rider.

As stock, it ought to be able to exceed most UK speed limits; and getting from point a to point b in the least time is not a function of power or max speed, but a riders ability / bravery / stupidity to use as much of what they got more of the time.

A little power employed with a modicum of skill and a little wisdom will always get you further and faster than a lot of power, foolishly employed with stupidity... one of the 'lessons' low powered learner legals offer, that contribute to their being good training tools.

'Power', strict scientific definition is is rate of change of energy;
Engines turn chemical energy, petrol, into kinetic energy, motion.
Brakes turn kinetic energy, motion, into thermal energy, heat.

There's a lesson in there.. if you have a finite amount of 'power' to turn petrol into motion, don't waste it, turning that motion back into heat using the brakes! THAT is how you go faster...

'cos your brakes are probably five times or more, as powerful as your engine... engine will take you maybe fifteen seconds to get you 'up' to 60mph.. brakes will get you back to a full stop in three!

The trick, of course, is to not use the brakes, and manage to not crash.. remember, its not the speed that kills you, its the sudden stop at the end.. any idiot can go super-fast given enough power.. its avoiding that neck-breaking stop after that's the difficult bit.... but that is back to this 'better rider' thing.

Better rider.. requires no spanners; no declared mods to insurance; doesn't impinge on learner or licence regulations; doesn't decrease the value of the bike; doesn't reduce the reliability, usually increases it; gets more 'speed', with less fuel, and less wear and tear, so less servicing, less crashing and less money.. never wears out, gets better the ore you use it, and transfers directly to any bike you throw a leg over, not just this one, for no extra cost or cash... no spanners required....... WHY does it NOT make sense to you?

Stop looking for stuff to do TO your bike.. start looking at stuff to do WITH it... like just RIDE the fucking thing!
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PostPosted: 13:22 - 12 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

no. the engine will struggle producing 10bhp, it will not make 60mph with any ease. Steep hill? 30-40mph. Dual carriageway or motorway could be considered dangerous, being overtaken by coaches (who have 70mph limit) and possibly HGV's.

So not a better rider. One that likes pathetic old honda designs. Give the bike to Tef Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:02 - 12 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

have you taken out the restrictor in top of carb?????

have you taken restrictor out exhaust?????

do that first. then you see a different bike my friend and wont cost anything.

if you want to pay out a little money buy a vm26 v3 from ebay get a 115 jet ,get a good foam filter best 1,s are ramair get them from ebay too.

you will see 82mph not bad considering .
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PostPosted: 14:15 - 12 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ignore this piece of idiocy... It won't do more than 60, possibly 65 down a hill.
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PostPosted: 14:30 - 12 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I can tell you I can get 70MPH out of the bike easy on a flat, uphill it drops to 55, but can easy get 60MPH even in 4th so I don't know where youse are getting your 'info' from because it's bullshit.
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PostPosted: 14:34 - 12 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a world of difference between indicated speed and actual speed. Try comparing the speedo reading to that from a GPS app such as MyTracks. Seriously give it a go and let us know the results.
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 12 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

jayjaymozza wrote:
Well I can tell you I can get 70MPH out of the bike easy on a flat, uphill it drops to 55, but can easy get 60MPH even in 4th so I don't know where youse are getting your 'info' from because it's bullshit.


My bike gets to 144 on the speedo.

It doesn't do that, probably 130.
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PostPosted: 15:18 - 12 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

jayjaymozza wrote:
Well I can tell you I can get 70MPH out of the bike easy on a flat, uphill it drops to 55, but can easy get 60MPH even in 4th so I don't know where youse are getting your 'info' from because it's bullshit.

You can tell us you got 90, or even 100 out of it; you can tell us it ran a 10 second quarter mile and lapped Cadwell in under a minute, on knoblies, cos you'd just won the Natterjack enduro on your way to Dakar.... and you might as well as long as you want to talk about 'bull-shit'..

Other wise, its a nice sunny day, JUST go ride the bludy thing and try learning something along the way.
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PostPosted: 17:02 - 12 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:

You can tell us you got 90, or even 100 out of it; you can tell us it ran a 10 second quarter mile and lapped Cadwell in under a minute, on knoblies, cos you'd just won the Natterjack enduro on your way to Dakar.... and you might as well as long as you want to talk about 'bull-shit'..

Other wise, its a nice sunny day, JUST go ride the bludy thing and try learning something along the way.


And you can tell us that there are 5 1/4 turns in 360 degrees.
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PostPosted: 21:03 - 12 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does the speedo wobble around as much as mine? Same engine, same factory as quinqi 125-2d.

Indicated is usually 10% higher, not that these pieces of shit have any accuracy. You know this when HGVs pass you at 65 Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:26 - 12 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

These bikes could be bought standard as a 150cc in most parts of the world but not the UK, big bore (150-170cc) kits are available for other Superbyke models for very little money (under 50 quid) but not the RMX model. I have bought a 150cc kit for my SB125 which did make a noticable difference without mods to the carb, that is my next stage of minor tuning with slightly bigger jets and a less restrictive air filter.
In the long term best to leave your bike as it is to enhance resale value and simply buy a more powerful/bigger machine when funds/licence allow as the cost of modification to your machine would exceed its total value.
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PostPosted: 21:32 - 12 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

NKVD fan wrote:


You need 20 bhp to crack 80mph.
I was able to crack 80 mph on a stock CB125T 4t around 25 years ago which apparently made 16.5 bhp although I would think 14 bhp was more realistic. Motorcycle news tested the same bike at 88mph around the same time.
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PostPosted: 07:14 - 13 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

webhead wrote:
have you taken out the restrictor in top of carb?????

have you taken restrictor out exhaust?????

do that first. then you see a different bike my friend and wont cost anything.

if you want to pay out a little money buy a vm26 v3 from ebay get a 115 jet ,get a good foam filter best 1,s are ramair get them from ebay too.

you will see 82mph not bad considering .


The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
The Shaggy D.A. wrote:


Still waiting...


You've had 6 years, surely you must be close soon...
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PostPosted: 08:25 - 13 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fitting a screen will improve the aerodynamics, and improve the top speed by 2 or 3 mph

The problem is that it would look totally shit.
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