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PostPosted: 13:43 - 27 Apr 2015    Post subject: 125 'repsol' crashes Reply with quote

Not sure if this has been posted. Couldn't find anything on a search.

I'm a bit baffled on this one, the corner was nice and wide, plenty of visibility even without riding in the middle/opposite as they were. Yet he managed to rupture his spleen and break his wrist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYFEtL2V0_E

I've drifted before on a corner that tightened and was partially blind when I started riding, but this just seems odd.
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PostPosted: 14:02 - 27 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm gonna hazard a guess at target fixation
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 27 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe he fell asleep. I mean a 125cc single cylinder four stroke is not really a crotch rocket. Very Happy

Now on the serious note, I've seen many videos like this one, still can't understand it. With new riders, what happens a lot is, they are looking around on the scenery, whilst not paying attention to where they are actually going. OR, some of them just freeze, when something happens.

Question: Why does no one have a first aid kit? That's a fine and some points of your licence here. Thumbs Up

Here's a example of someone freezing on the bike: https://youtu.be/i8VBhcnEmig?t=50s
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PostPosted: 14:07 - 27 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

UncleBFester wrote:
I'm gonna hazard a guess at target fixation
The solitary sheep in the field Very Happy
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PostPosted: 14:13 - 27 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd guess it was the telegraph pole and the thought of *i'd better not run wide and hit that*.

Also ( and i've done it and still sometimes do it ) you forget as a new rider that whist you are ok most of the time .. you still don't have that built in instinct for what to do automatically and if you assume you do ... sometimes it fails. The faster you are going / the sharper the bend ... the more that failure can bite you. That's why i have kept my speed sensible - it gives me time to react to something that a more experienced rider would do without thinking about it.
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PostPosted: 17:05 - 27 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I embarrassingly did something very similar only yesterday. I was 'making progress' and took too much speed into a corner and panicked as I wasn't able to get the lean angle required to get round the corner, so stood the bike up and went flying off the road into a field. I jumped about four feet off the road into a field that luckily had no fence and managed to stay on. Had it been anything other than a supermoto I doubt I would've stayed on.
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 27 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:
Now on the serious note, I've seen many videos like this one, still can't understand it. With new riders, what happens a lot is, they are looking around on the scenery, whilst not paying attention to where they are actually going. OR, some of them just freeze, when something happens.


You go where you look on a bike, so unless you actively force yourself to not go where you're looking, you'll drift off course. It's something you eventually get rid of, but it takes a while unless you actively work on it.

On a side note, I hate this Ryan'slifevlogsuperstar twat.
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PostPosted: 20:15 - 27 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not really a sharp corner, 100% visibility what's around it, slow bike at low speed, still the rider managed to go straight into that fence Thinking
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PostPosted: 07:57 - 28 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Albigularis wrote:
On a side note, I hate this Ryan'slifevlogsuperstar twat.
Totally agree, however this popped up on my youtube 'crap you may want watch if you have lost the will to live' notification and was curious. It would appear also, that a couple of days before this excursion, he came off on a roundabout in the wet due to cold tyres Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 08:39 - 28 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

DRZ4Hunned wrote:
I embarrassingly did something very similar only yesterday. I was 'making progress' and took too much speed into a corner and panicked as I wasn't able to get the lean angle required to get round the corner, so stood the bike up and went flying off the road into a field. I jumped about four feet off the road into a field that luckily had no fence and managed to stay on. Had it been anything other than a supermoto I doubt I would've stayed on.


Why is this shit not on video
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PostPosted: 09:48 - 28 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

DRZ4Hunned wrote:
...too much speed into a corner and panicked as I wasn't able to get the lean angle required to get round the corner, so stood the bike up...


I would say this is exactly what happened in the vid. Corner is not tight so the rider is deceived into thinking the bike doesn't need tipping in too much.

Start drifting towards the edge, look at edge, panic, stand the bike up, game over.
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 28 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

arry wrote:
Why is this shit not on video


Even more annoyingly, I have a helmet camera but couldn't be arsed wearing it as it's a PITA to set up. There was a fair weather power ranger behind me that would've found it absolutely hilarious, I know I would. I'm tempted to go and re-enact it on camera.
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PostPosted: 15:55 - 28 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:

Question: Why does no one have a first aid kit? That's a fine and some points of your licence here. Thumbs Up


Really? What do you carry in your mandatory motorcycle first aid kit that would be any use whatsoever in an actual accident? Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:15 - 29 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bloke is out for the count "yea lets move his head around."
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PostPosted: 22:58 - 29 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

That looks suspiciously like the Evo Triangle in North Wales. Specifically, this kink on the A543. I can confirm that it is well sighted and easily navigable at over the NSL on a dry day should you be so inclined. I've ridden that road hundreds of times but have also seen quite a few overturned cars in fields adjacent to that exact kink so it's apparently quite easy to crash there. The cars I saw were usually barried/chavved and I suspect were drawn to the area by that EVO car magazine that does a lot of testing on those roads.

No idea why this kid crashed though, it's not like there's much to get target fixated on in the Denbigh Moors Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:17 - 30 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

KLR600 wrote:
...North Wales... ...quite a few overturned cars in fields...


Over zealous Welsh men chasing sheep on a Saturday night.
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PostPosted: 07:43 - 03 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have to give them a bit of credit for wearing proper gear though Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:15 - 03 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monkeypony wrote:
RhynoCZ wrote:

Question: Why does no one have a first aid kit? That's a fine and some points of your licence here. Thumbs Up


Really? What do you carry in your mandatory motorcycle first aid kit that would be any use whatsoever in an actual accident? Laughing


Well, in this accident a good old: grow up you whining baby, would be enough.

The mandatory first aid kit for motorcyclists contains:
2x sterile bandages
Triangular scarf (to fix broken limbs in their place, hands/arms most likely + to fix upper limbs when you've got broken collarbone)
3x patch with a pillow on it (not sure how you call that)
Tourniquet (70cm long, for stopping you bleeding to death)
2x safety pin (not sure why)
Rubber gloves
Isothermal foil (to make you feel like an astronaut)
There also used to be a pair of scissors, but there is no more, for some reason.

The mandatory first aid kit in a car contains a bit more stuff. Thumbs Up

The idea is not to use your own first aid kit when you crash. I mean the bike could be smashed so bad, you won't get into your underseat compartment. That's why every driver/rider has got to have the first aid kit to help you. It is also against the law not to help other drivers/rides. You can get up to 1 year in prison for that. Every driver/rider is taught the first aid, when they are doing their licenses.
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