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Wednesday Biker
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PostPosted: 18:42 - 06 May 2015    Post subject: Top box for Speed Four? Reply with quote

Never had a top box before.I'm a top box noob.But I'm planning on doing a few longer journeys and hopefully some short breaks on the bike.
I need a top box that is around 50L I think, maybe could go bigger but its just really for a helmet and leggings etc on day trips or some clothing on overnight trips.
Currently browsing Ebay but i'm not sure which kind will fit my bike.I imagine it needs to come with certain fixing bolts/washers and only certain plates will fit?
I'm looking at the cheap end of the market btw.Any help would be appreciated.
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 06 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

50L is massive, go for something about 35L

any box with a universal fitting kit will fit on that rack. Givi is a bit better than the stuff on ebay.

Something like this at the slightly better end

https://www.moto24.co.uk/givi-monolock-top-case-e370n-black.html?LGWCODE=6173;86732;4971&gclid=CKyXtYL3rcUCFQLMtAodxRQA6g
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PostPosted: 21:16 - 06 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bit of imagination you will get a mount to fit that. My Givi looks like this....


https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTUyMFgxNjAw/z/Kr8AAOxy0bRS~vrb/$_35.JPG

You could use two strips of stainless going from left to right with fixing/bolt holes and longer bolts to make it fit.
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PostPosted: 00:44 - 07 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alans Snackbar wrote:


any box with a universal fitting kit will fit on that rack.


Not without some modding it won't.
Depends how secure you want it, fixing and security.
Fixing the top box plate to it is easy. Just some metal strips, nuts and bolts (well that's what I used). The box is still on the back Smile
Security wise, maybe you could weld the nuts and bolts. It won't really stop anyone taking the top box (unless you bolt that to the plate too) or breaking into it, I'm talking about the cheap ones.

I find 45l too small Smile
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PostPosted: 09:52 - 07 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

if your gonna buy givi I would buy givi monokey rather than the monolock ..

monolock...which I fitted to me ZZR14 and it bounced up _and down like a fcukin po-go stick chuckin every thing round inside. Crying or Very sad


the construction of the monokey box & plate is much more ridged and won`t bounce up and down...
it is a lot more expensive though. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:56 - 07 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alans Snackbar wrote:
50L is massive, go for something about 35L


Agree with that Thumbs Up

50L will be mahoosive on the back of your bike and you don't need it unless you want to get 2 lids in there. You could well get some buffeting from a big box too, makes it feel a bit squirelly.

https://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w462/MattB70/20140514_123229_zpsb1eaf69f.jpg

50L top box on my old Pan, looks big even on that.
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PostPosted: 12:06 - 07 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a 50l top box on my 125 Laughing Ruined the already bad handling and knocked 5mph off my top speed.

But yeah, 50l is huge. Go for something smaller.
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PostPosted: 12:19 - 07 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

sabian92 wrote:
I had a 50l top box on my 125 Laughing Ruined the already bad handling and knocked 5mph off my top speed.

But yeah, 50l is huge. Go for something smaller.


try a E45 on a ZZR1400 .. that was "interestin" ... Wink
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PostPosted: 15:54 - 07 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Givi E55 Maxia on my VFR when I tour. Fits two helmets comfortably. Putting a helmet and a biking jacket in there is a bit of a squeeze, but not too much. I wouldn't be able to fit helmet, textile jacket and textile trousers in there without taking the armour out or doing violence to it.

Doesn't affect handling much at all if it's empty (more inclined to wheelie, but that's with a bag strapped to pillion seat too), and hasn't affected stability north of 140mph (tested on autobahn). VFR is normally very stable though.

I wouldn't keep much heavy stuff in a topbox though. Strapping stuff to pillion seat is much safer, less likely to snap mounts etc. Normally I just keep earplugs, documents, spare bulbs, rain jacket, spare gloves, that kind of thing in there, and put my helmet and gloves in when parked up.
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PostPosted: 17:18 - 07 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm is 50 that big Smile
Not sure what size my girlfriends top box is,it takes two lids or lid and legs but doesn't seem too big.
I thought it was more than 50 for some reason.I wouldn't want one much bigger really though.
Isn't 35l just enough for a helmet and not much else ?
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PostPosted: 17:59 - 07 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wednesday Biker wrote:
Hmm is 50 that big Smile
Not sure what size my girlfriends top box is,it takes two lids or lid and legs but doesn't seem too big.
I thought it was more than 50 for some reason.I wouldn't want one much bigger really though.
Isn't 35l just enough for a helmet and not much else ?


35 L is 2/3 full with a helmet in it.
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 08 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a 42lt Givi and it will not take two lids. It will take a case of 24 beers though Thumbs Up and its only about 22 inches wide so not to large.


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Rf8BOq9gq_I/VKCpR4_rtCI/AAAAAAAAB-c/c3VWKKrREZY/w975-h525-no/Rack.jpg
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Pa9ek3PDsto/VArc4_aIFJI/AAAAAAAABXY/1Aqzj1gjh2o/w745-h525-no/1888bike.png


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PostPosted: 14:24 - 08 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can anyone tell me why the img tags dont work for me? I can only think the forum software does not like google but i am sure i have linked them from google before.
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PostPosted: 16:44 - 08 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Work for me.
That looks about the size I need.
Hopefully i'll find something
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PostPosted: 16:52 - 08 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take the s out of https

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Rf8BOq9gq_I/VKCpR4_rtCI/AAAAAAAAB-c/c3VWKKrREZY/w975-h525-no/Rack.jpg%20
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PostPosted: 17:32 - 08 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt B wrote:
Take the s out of https



Cheers Matt Thumbs Up Odd as i have posted pictures befor with no problem. Must have a look later, could be photobucket i was using as the tags are done for you so may not have that S.
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PostPosted: 17:33 - 08 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wednesday Biker wrote:
Work for me.
That looks about the size I need.
Hopefully i'll find something


Got that 2nd hand on eBay last year. £30 posted
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